Cloud ships on course to beat climate change, says Copenhagen study [fleet of 1,900 ships...]

Timesonline ^

[Hot Tabasco]

giant engineering schemes designed to alter the climate

My gut feeling says that is definitely not a good idea.......

[enduserindy]

That’s what I thought. Water vapor would be the only low energy way I could foresee and it would be a very low volume.

[Reeses]

Clouds are poor reflectors of radio frequencies. Radar cannot see a cloud, but can see precipitation. On the other hand thick clouds are strong reflectors of infrared heat. Almost all of the heat in a cloud originally came from the surface at the time the water evaporated. Clouds absorb very little new heat from the surface once they are up there.

[boatbums]

What’s the saying? : Nothing’s impossible for those who don’t have to do it.

[allmost]

I've used cloud cover in fleet communications. The fleet I ran would sometimes double it's effective communication area with the right cloud cover. If you think clouds don’t maintain heat, even though any observant individual can walk out on a few nights and see for themselves, I don't know what to say. Read up on it. I'm not responding anymore here.

[balls]

Post of the day!

[Brad from Tennessee]

[. . .they could use the resulting freshwater.]

If this program would increase rainfall over the Middle East without adversely affecting the climate elsewhere Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Dubai and some others might be happy to pay for it.

[boatbums]

Farmer’s used to use smudge pots to create man-made cloud blankets that kept citrus trees from freezing.

Smudge pots produce heat which helps to keep citrus from freezing. The smoke is pretty much gone once the pot is 'primed'. After it gets about 29 or 30 degrees F, they don't work. (former Florida Citrus Belt resident)

[pankot]

Why don’t they do something much less expensive and a lot more effective: PRAY!

[Reeses]

I don't have personal experience with smudge pots but had read about the man-made cloud blanket effect long ago. Here is an entry at Encyclopedia Britannica: smudge pot device - usually an oil container with some crude oil burning in the bottom, used in fruit orchards, especially citrus groves, to provide protection against frost. The smoke serves as a blanket to reduce heat losses due to outgoing radiation. Because of the air pollution they generate smudge pots have been generally supplanted by other means of frost protection, such as smokeless burners using natural gas.

[GraceG]

I would only like this idea if the whole aim was to increase rainfall in traditionally dry areas. Imagine a fleet of these ships being used to increase agriculture and human prosperity. Instead it will be used to reinforce the lie of Man Made climate change and will be used to actually alter the environment in order to reinforce their controlling ideals.

[Reeses]

A really good thing about clouds is they are fairly local and soon rain out, so the UN isn't going to find them useful for global control. California could be turned into a rain forest without much effect a few hundred miles away.

An interesting thing about some kinds of ocean algae is if they are bothered by too much UV radiation they emit a chemical that causes water vapor to condense into clouds, which then reduce the UV level. Saltwater algae somewhat regulate their local climate.

Making algae biodiesel in the open ocean could be used to make more freshwater and cool the climate. But the Saudi's are going to hate this particular idea because it would ruin their free ride.

[Boardwalk]

Slow ride