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The Congealing Pot--Today's Immigrants Are Different from Waves Past
American Enterprise Institute ^ | Monday, August 24, 2009 (don't ask me) | Jason Richwine

Posted on 08/08/2009 8:38:50 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

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1 posted on 08/08/2009 8:38:50 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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“For Slovenian, press one: for Polish, press two, for Italian, press three.”


2 posted on 08/08/2009 8:41:33 AM PDT by La Lydia
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Now they come for the money and soon the free healthcare.

One of the great benefits of multilingual education and multilingual ballots. vote for what freebie you want next year.


3 posted on 08/08/2009 8:42:54 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid)
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If you get a chance to fly out of El Paso to Ontario or Phoenix, sit by the window and look down when the airplane banks out over Jauarez. The slum shacks you see down below is what Mexico wants to bring to us. The influx of Mexicans is not about improving anything in the US, it is about converting the US into Mexico. Therein lies the problem.


4 posted on 08/08/2009 8:43:11 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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Hasn’t anyone ever heard of REQONQUISTA?

http://michellemalkin.com/2006/03/27/welcome-to-reconquista/

Welcome to Reconquista
By Michelle Malkin • March 27, 2006 09:42 AM ***scroll for updates…Bush warns against stoking anti-immigrant feelings. Wants a “civil debate.” Video here…Ok. Tell that to the divisive militants below…***

As Mickey Kaus points out, the reporters at the Los Angeles Times (and all other major media, for that matter) have downplayed the radical ethnic separatism that characterized the pro-illegal immigration rallies over the weekend. While the Times misleadingly asserted that the Los Angeles rally “featured more American flags than those from any other country,” its reporters conveniently ignored marchers with extremist signs and banners advocating America-undermining concepts of reconquista and Aztlan:


5 posted on 08/08/2009 8:44:22 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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Today's Immigrants Are Different from Waves Past. ...The large influx of Hispanic immigrants after 1965 represents a unique assimilation challenge

Hispanic immigrants (both legal and illegal) are here in such large numbers that most don't feel the need to assimilate. Plus there's a pervasive attitude among them that they're merely reclaiming land that's rightfully theirs. ...which of course further discourages assimilation.

6 posted on 08/08/2009 8:49:27 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Four or five generations is probably about right. Where I come from there was a great immigration of French Canadians from the 1870s into the 1920s. There was virtually no assimilation until the generation born in the 1950s and 60s. Even that group speaks English with a French accent...but their kids don't. They don;t even speak French.

My theory is that the group was so large that it formed its own society and as Quebec is so close, there was a constant and continuing connection with the old country...sort of like with the Mexicans. The Irish, Greeks, Poles, Jews etc didn't have that. I can say, however, that for recent immigrants from just about anywhere avoiding assimilation and staying connected to the old country is a snap with satellite TV and the internet.

7 posted on 08/08/2009 8:51:25 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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You mean among “some” (or “most”) of them. Reconquista doesn’t really apply to Chicago, for example (although advocates on that side try to make it apply).


8 posted on 08/08/2009 8:52:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Even the later European immigrants moved this country left and led to where we are today.

The immigration from 1840 to 1920 doomed America and created the path to a future that the original American people would never have accepted and have always voted against.


9 posted on 08/08/2009 8:54:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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How so? This article appears to argue otherwise.


10 posted on 08/08/2009 8:56:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kolokotronis
My theory is

And you can add to your theory the fact that the government of Mexico encourages illegal migration to the US as a major part of its economic policy. Those in the US are still considered Mexican, and are encouraged to maintain ties with Mexico, to behave as dual citizens.

Mexico wants it excess population to enter the US illegally, to get rid of it and avoid a revolt among those who found no real opportunity in Mexico.

11 posted on 08/08/2009 9:01:23 AM PDT by Will88
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So why do Hispanics, on average, not assimilate? Theories abound. Popular explanations from the left include the legacy of white racism, labor-market discrimination, housing segregation, and poor educational opportunities. Those on the right tend to cite enforced multiculturalism, ethnic enclaves, and a self-perpetuating culture of poverty. One would need a whole book to sort out these competing explanations, but we can safely say that none of them, even if true, suggests easy solutions. Social scientists have not devised any set of programs that effectively spurs assimilation.

BULLS**T!!!!!

The reason that they're not assimilating (and entering the societal mainstream and prospering) is because, thanks to "social scientists" and "do-gooders" on the left, they don't have to! When my great grandparents (on my father's side) and grandparents (on my mother's side) arrived in the USA, they HAD to enter society! They had to learn to speak English, and other than family and religious assistance, they had to make it on their own. There were no "social programs" for them. They were forced to help themselves. By making things "easier" for immigrants, like allowing them to fill out government assistance forms in their native languages, we ensure that these immigrants will be on the public dole for generations, and that those generations will not be able to speak, read, or write English, ensuring that they become, and their decedents remain, an underclass.

Mark

12 posted on 08/08/2009 9:04:32 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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My Grandparents came here from Sicily, BOTH sides.

My parents both went on to be successful American citizens. Their children went also went on to be successful. My Grandparents taught themselves English and encouraged their children to blend in because they were official U.S. natural born citizens. UNLIKE Obummer.

As a public school teacher who once taught in a inner city school, I would often hear some Mexican students refer to this country as really belonging to MEXICO. I would try to explain to them the history, but they would have none of it and continue their non-assimilation. My guess is their opposition is permanent.

This is sad for our country. It may in fact one day resemble Mexico.

13 posted on 08/08/2009 9:06:34 AM PDT by purpleporter
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Essentially, all you've done is add one element to the author's list (government forms in different languages). By doing so, you've done nothing to indicate the rest of the list is "BULLS**T!!!!!"

Settle down.

14 posted on 08/08/2009 9:08:08 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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One major difference not noted in the study is past waves of legal immigrants had no access to a welfare trough. It was succeed or head back to where you came from.

A pretty good stimulus program, imo.

Invaders do not have that stick to worry about these days. All they see is the carrots.


15 posted on 08/08/2009 9:09:59 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman (Luke 23:31)
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I almost got into a fight with an "activist" (alcohol was involved on both sides) on a commuter train in Chicago when he tried to play the "reconquista" card (he was "lecturing" the captive audience).

I simply asked him what tribe he represented, Miami, Illini, Shawnee, Dakota Sioux, or some other. Shut him right up . . . and I had the Brooks Brothers crowd winking at me the rest of the way.

16 posted on 08/08/2009 9:13:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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The story is always written that way, start searching for where the vote for the left’s agenda was coming from and you will see that the later Europeans were liberals and from the beginning started reshaping America to their more European ideas.


17 posted on 08/08/2009 9:18:26 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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Roosevelt (New Deal) and Johnson (Great Society) were European immigrants? C’mon.


18 posted on 08/08/2009 9:21:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: MarkL
The reason that they're not assimilating (and entering the societal mainstream and prospering) is because, thanks to "social scientists" and "do-gooders" on the left, they don't have to! When my great grandparents (on my father's side) and grandparents (on my mother's side) arrived in the USA, they HAD to enter society! They had to learn to speak English, and other than family and religious assistance, they had to make it on their own. There were no "social programs" for them. They were forced to help themselves. By making things "easier" for immigrants, like allowing them to fill out government assistance forms in their native languages, we ensure that these immigrants will be on the public dole for generations, and that those generations will not be able to speak, read, or write English, ensuring that they become, and their decedents remain, an underclass. Mark

There is an identifiable group of a third of Hispanic voters that voted 56% for republicans in 2004 and voted 48% republican in 2008. That group seems to be assimilating.

19 posted on 08/08/2009 9:23:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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WHere this article goes wrong is using the term “Hispanic” when it clearly means “Mexican”. THere is no such thing as “HIspanic”. The nations of Latin America are quite different ethnically, culturally and politically — the the only thing they have in common is the Spanish language and the legacy of anti-democratic Spanish colonialism.


20 posted on 08/08/2009 9:25:38 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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