Obama Birth Story Unraveling - Mother In Univ Class In Seattle 15 Days After Obama Supposedly Born!

Dr. Jerome Corsi / Rusty Humphries Show

[MindBender26]

Jerone Corsi, Ph. D. is about to drop another bombshell, casting further doubt on the stories of President Obama's birth.

Dr. Corsi, whose doctorate is from Harvard, is an excellent researcher and investigative journalist. He was the driving force behind the Swift Boat veterans telling the truth about War Phony John Kerry. He is also the author of "Obamanation."

In his latest research, to be splashed on WND early next week, Dr. Corsi will reveal that he has documentary evidence that the mother of Barack Obama Jr., Ms Stanley A. Durham-Soetoro, began evening classes at the University of Washington in Seattle on August 19, 1961. This is just 15 days after she supposedly gave birth to President Obama in Hawaii.

We are expected to believe that in just15 days, she gave birth, stayed in the hospital for a few days, them packed her things and left her house in Hawaii, moved to Seattle, got established there, registered for, then began classed in Seattle, all the while caring for her newborn.

The new evidence also destroys another Obama legend-lie. According to the President’s autobiography, Obama Sr. and Durhan-Soetoro were supposedly deeply in love and made a happy home together in Hawaii, complete with their baby, until Obama Sr. had to move to Boston to attend Harvard and could not afford take Stanley and baby Barack with him.

According to Dr. Corsi’s new written evidence, Durham-Soetoro was in college classes, thousands of miles away from Hawaii and did not return to the islands until long Obama Sr. left for Harvard.

Dr. Corsi also reveals that a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth requires no proof of any kind and could simply be issued on the sworn statement of one parent.

All of this simply adds to the fast growing uncertainty and suspicion over Obama’s supposed birth stories. Is August 4, 1961, his real birth date? Where was he really born? When he traveled to the Middle East in the 1990s, he did not have a US passport. What country issued him a passport, and why? Why won’t he release the one document that would answer all the questions?

It just gets deeper and deeper.

[Fred Nerks]

Sorry for all the confusion, I understand what you are trying to tell me...but what I am trying to explain is:

‘Anna Obama’ is listed in the Polk Directory 1961/62.

‘Obama. Stanley Ann Dunham’ is on the University course attendance card.

‘Stanley Ann Dunham’ is the name on the letter received through FOI - from the University with dates of ‘attendance’ - where-as the card shows ‘extension courses’

Each one contradicts the other to a certain extent.
Why?

Why is it that everything to do with her, is such a mess?

Might it be that she NEEDED to make it appear she was living at a certain address to someone or some people who KNEW of her as Anna Obama?

Might it be that she enrolled as Stanley Ann Dunham because she had to identify herself when she enrolled?

Might it be that the OBAMA was added to the enrollment AFTER SHE TOOK THE NAME?

Might it be that she was NOT on the mainland?

Might it be that someone helpful, who understood her need to be SHOWN as living on the mainland, whilst she was elsewhere...collected the course work for her, mailed it to her...and if necessary, handed it in when completed?

All I am trying to do is show how it’s possible to LOOK as if you are in one place whilst NOT even being in the COUNTRY!

And what about the poor postman...what does he do with letters addressed to Stanley Ann Dunham, the one enrolled at the University...send them back?

[wideminded]

I saw that after my last post but it still doesn't convince me since the source may just be the previous paper document. After all, were academic records even stored on computers in 1961? And if the UW could provide this nice computer printed transcript, why was the previous microfilmed-looking item necessary?

#300 is another post by the guy who claims to have been there. Maybe he's delusional or a "troll", although he doesn't sound that way. I may be on the UW campus in a few weeks, so if this hasn't been resolved by then, perhaps I can look up the dates myself.

[El Gato]

As believable as Eleanor Nordyke, connected to the East West Centre, that lists her written works...who had twins in the 'same hospital' whose announcement we cannot find.

But we do have copies of the Twins Original Certificates of Live Birth. They were published in the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper, from whose site the image below is linked:

The Certificates clearly show the twins were born in Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. Mrs. Nordyke said she did not remember Stanley Ann or Baby Barry from the hospital, but rather that Toot had later told her that BHO Jr was born in that same hospital. Mrs. Nordyke could have been telling the complete truth about what Mrs. Dunham said, but Mrs. Dunham could have been fudging the story, probably out of habit by then. Liars often start to believe their own lies, especially ones they've told for a long time.

[Fred Nerks]

The birth of the twins is not in doubt, is it? The question remains, where is their birth announcement?

Mrs Nordyke said:

“I think it was remarkable that they just so happened to be born within 24 hours of each other and grew up knowing each other,” Nordyke said.

She did not know Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, while they were in labor together on Aug. 4, 1961, at the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.

But Nordyke was a population research fellow at the East-West Center while Dunham was there. And Nordyke later met Madelyn Dunham — Ann Dunham’s mother and Obama’s grandmother — during a cruise to Tahiti in 2002.

“She was placed at our table on the ship,” Nordyke said. “She sat with us on that ship for three weeks. She told us that her daughter had passed away and that she had raised her grandson, and he was a social worker in Chicago.”

Right. And in 2003, Madelyn wasn’t able to walk without a walking aid, her osteoporosis was so bad...and Obama was a Senator in 2002. Not a ‘social worker’. The twins were born, Eleanor Nordyke was connected to the East-West Centre, and after that, the truth takes a holiday.

[El Gato]

But if you see her back in Seattle on Mercer Island on the return from Kenya talking about how happy she is with her husband; and you see her next registering for classes at Washington, even in late September; when did she give up on him and what were the circumstances--or where did she go to give up on him?

Or, was she ever in Kenya at all. Maybe she had given up on him from the beginning, that is she never intended or wanted to marry him, but just married him to legitimize the baby. Then finding that he was no real catch, or someone anyone in their right mind would want to live with, went to have the baby somewhere else, maybe Seattle/Mercer Island, maybe somewhere else yet.

Notice on the transcript, she was not admitted to the University until March of '62, for the Spring quarter. That might indicate a hurried change of plans, rather than returning to, or staying in, Hawaii, she runs off to U-Washington, taking courses in the Extension division, which does not require formal admission, and thus can be done rather quickly, rather than what was often months on the normal admissions timeline. Not something someone intending to stay with her "husband" would be likely to do, when she could have just as well re-enrolled in U. Hawai'i, which she eventually did, as soon as "hubby" was on his way to Baasten.

That part of the story, saying she expected to rejoin her husband in Boston, is likely pure bunk, most likely Stanley Ann's bunk.

[April Lexington]

Compare the date of that amendment to the date the communist ideology emerged from Europe. These folks know what they are doing...

[woofie]

Cant anything be simple in Obama’s life?

[FTJM]

I saw that after my last post but it still doesn't convince me since the source may just be the previous paper document. After all, were academic records even stored on computers in 1961? And if the UW could provide this nice computer printed transcript, why was the previous microfilmed-looking item necessary?

#300 is another post by the guy who claims to have been there. Maybe he's delusional or a "troll", although he doesn't sound that way. I may be on the UW campus in a few weeks, so if this hasn't been resolved by then, perhaps I can look up the dates myself.

Ummm...the COLB produced by Obama was generated from a computer. WND showed both the original and the computer generated record for comparison. See how that works...

[El Gato]

vThere is absolutely no legal definition of "natural born citizen" the requires citizenship of the parents

Could be because, there is no legal defintion of "Natural Born Citizen". The closest thing to that is in the "Elg" case, of a woman, Ms. Elg, born in the US, of *naturalized* parents who were Swedish natives. They took her back to Sweden, and resumed their Swedish citizenship, giving up their US citizenship (I think, but it's not important anyway). Ms. Elg wished to re-establish her US "identity" and move here. The DC Circuit court ruled she was a "Natural Born Citizen", and the Supreme Court stated that the lower court acted correctly in doing that. But note, she was born in the US, of two US citizen parents, and that the declaration was really just dicta, since the question before the courts was "is she a citizen", not "is she a natural born citizen". Otherwise, there is no law, and no court cases.

This is not suprising, since the only time the difference between "natural born" and "born in the US but with one or both parents being aliens" is eligibility for the office of President, and of course VP, who must meet the same eligibility requirements.

The one instance where a VP/President is known not to have had both parents be US citizens at the time of his birth was Chester Arthur, but he hid the fact that his father was not naturalized until he was about 14 years old, and it did not come out until much, much later, well after Arthur had passed away, so there were never any court cases attendant to his eligibility. (He had actually run as VP, but became President when the President was assassinated).

[El Gato]

There you go, assuming there is a "history" for that electronic transcript, then the start date was indeed Aug 19, 1961.

I see that the image comes from WND, but do you have a link to the story that goes with it? ... Never mind, it's the top story right now.

Evidence challenges claim over Obama's birth address

[dixiegrrlll79]

Last year, three different employees from Bush’s state department snooped into Zerobama’s passport file, but nothing came of it! So I’m guessing they didn’t find anything damning!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/20/obama.passport/index.html

[Nom d’ Guerre]

I agree. Some of Corsi’s research in WND’s article 106135 (see below) seems to be based on what he reads in questionable sources. I don’t see strong evidence of authentic research.

What about the credibility of WorldNetDaily as well? Remember when WND published this statement on 2 August?

{{ WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical. }}

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105764

And two days later, the very SAME statement in this article:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=106016

Now along comes Corsi who shows a purportedly Kenyan document titled “Return of birth . . .” that looks altogether different from the Kenyan Certification of Registration of Birth:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=106135

After that, Corsi cites propaganda from, of all sources, the highly UNtrustworthy, pro-Obama biased Washington Independent!

Does Corsi mention, breathe one word about, the “other birth certificates FROM KENYA” whose form appears “to be IDENTICAL”? (Emphasis added)

What is going on? Do WND editors not check WND’s articles for content errors? Did WND lie in its first and second article? Or are certain Kenyans trying to discredit Orly’s find?

I no longer trust WND. That publication tends toward sensationalism, and the articles I cited disagree on an extremely important basic fact.

[little jeremiah]

Sheesh! Please, mods, check this one out. She’s undoubtedly from the 0-team.

And dixiegrill - the snooping into files is connected with 0bama, not Bush. You either already know that and are smoke blowing, or you just don’[t know anything by mistake. Which is doubtful.

One of the breakers in was working for the dude that 0bama subsequently hired, and at the time of the breakin, was helping 0bama with funding for the election. 0bama engineered the breakin to see what was on his files.

Troll.

[wideminded]

Ummm...the COLB produced by Obama was generated from a computer.

Yes, and we know that the conversion from paper records wasn't done until 2001.

In the transcript case, if WND had the clearer document before, why didn't Dr. Corsi add it to his August 4th article? I note that today's article doesn't say anything about an additional document transfer from UW. If the computer-generated document isn't from UW, then one must wonder about its provenance. If the computer generated document was created by UW from the paper document, then it is entirely likely that the transcriptionist could have made the '8'/'9' reading error and would never never checked any other source for the class dates.

[potlatch]

Excellent post, music and all!

[El Gato]

Last year, three different employees from Bush’s state department snooped into Zerobama’s passport file, but nothing came of it!

They weren't State Department employees, they were contractors, whose employer has ties to...you guessed it, The One.

[El Gato]

It remained perfectly legal for realtors and property owners to discriminate on the basis of race.

Doesn't mean they always did, particularly when the "wrong race" person is a baby with a "right race" mother.

[El Gato]

‘Stanley Ann Dunham’ is the name on the letter received through FOI - from the University with dates of ‘attendance’ - where-as the card shows ‘extension courses’

Are you sure you aren't confusing the University of Hawaii letter with the University of Washington letter. She was "Dunham" when she first enrolled at U. Hawaii. They may just keep the record under that name, even if it changes latter. Can't recall if that was done with my wife's records or not. We married when she had about year left as an undergrad.

The card shows both Extension courses and for the Spring quarter of '62, regular courses. So does the printed transcript from U. Washington.

[PhilDragoo]

[Fred Nerks]

‘Stanley Ann Dunham’ is the name on the letter received through FOI - from the University with dates of ‘attendance’ - where-as the card shows ‘extension courses’

whoops! I meant to write:

‘Stanley Ann Dunham’ is the name on the letter received through FOI - from the University with dates of ‘attendance’ - where-as the name on the card shows OBAMA. Stanley Ann Dunham.

I DID have both items of FOI communication downloaded, but regretfully lost them when my comp crashed months ago. However, the text is here:

ATLAS SHRUGS.LINK

Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for: Autumn 1961 Winter 1962 Spring 1962

The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

Madolyne Lawson Office of Public Records 206-543-9180