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Katyn victims in Kharkov were ‘limed’
TheNews.pl ^ | 10.08.2009

Posted on 08/10/2009 1:59:44 PM PDT by lizol

Katyn victims in Kharkov were ‘limed’

10.08.2009 12:10

Secret NKVD documents reveal that thousands of Katyn massacre victims executed in Kharkov were later covered with lime to conceal traces of mass murder.

A letter, branded ‘top secret,’ has recently been found by the Ukrainian Security Service in post-Soviet archives. It reads: “In a forest about 100 metres from Kharkov-Bilgorod road, within a 50-metre radius, are many spots of collapsed earth. The holes are rectangular, 3x6 metres. One of the holes has been dug out and human bones and skulls can be seen. Some of the bones are scattered on the ground. There are also the remains of foreign-made military boots.”

The letter was written by General Vitaliy Nikitchenko to KGB head Yuri Andropov and to Petro Shelest, leader of the Communist Party of Ukraine, on 7 June 1969.

General Nikitchenko, head of the Committee of State Security of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, further reports that the grave has been dug out by three pupils of fifth and sixth grade from Pyatikhatki. They robbed a gold ring engraved with the initials AK and the date 29 June 1924, gold tooth crowns and military buttons with the image of the Polish eagle.

“It has been established that here in 1940 the NKVD from Kharkov region buried several thousands executed officers and generals of bourgeois Poland, whose remnants have been accidentally discovered by children,” writes Nikitchenko.

Pyatikhatki, along with Katyn and Miednoye, is the burial place of over 3,700 Polish war prisoners executed by the NKVD in 1940 as ordered by Stalin and other Soviet leaders.

In order to conceal the discovery and truth about the mass murder, Nikitchenko proposed announcing that it was Germans who executed deserters from their own army and the allied armies. The General suggested that people be warned that victims who were buried here died of cholera, typhus, syphilis and other infectious diseases. Andropov decided that that kind of disinformation campaign will not be enough, and, in a letter to General Petro Feshchenko from the Kharkov branch of the NKVD, ordered the site destroyed. The burial place in Pyatikhatki was to be surrounded by barbed-wire fence and guarded by 21 men. The remnants of Polish officers were to be destroyed by being covered with lime and the graves were to be filled in. Andropov gave his subordinates four years and 10,000 rubles (220 euro) to do that.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: katyn; poland; sovietunion; ww2
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1 posted on 08/10/2009 1:59:44 PM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 08/10/2009 2:01:43 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
I guess the Tea-Party protesters can be thankful that, so far, they've only been slimed.
3 posted on 08/10/2009 2:02:08 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: lizol

Coming soon to a mass grave near you.


4 posted on 08/10/2009 2:02:08 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: lizol

bump


5 posted on 08/10/2009 2:02:15 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: lizol

“General Nikitchenko, head of the Committee of State Security of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, further reports that the grave has been dug out by three pupils of fifth and sixth grade from Pyatikhatki. They robbed a gold ring engraved with the initials AK and the date 29 June 1924, gold tooth crowns and military buttons with the image of the Polish eagle. “

I know I was a really weird kid (adult?), but that would have an amazing discovery!! A giant grave with nearly 100 year old rings!

We thought we had hit the jackpot when stumbling on a box 1950’s era bottlecap collection in the woods behind my house!


6 posted on 08/10/2009 2:06:37 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: autumnraine

Hit enter too soon...

and there weren’t any cool skeletons to go with it!!
(speaking from fifth and sixth grade mentality here)


7 posted on 08/10/2009 2:07:22 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: lizol

Time to buy stock in lime companies....


8 posted on 08/10/2009 2:08:01 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: lizol

> Secret NKVD documents reveal that thousands of Katyn massacre victims executed in Kharkov were later covered with lime to conceal traces of mass murder.

But this couldn’t be news! My History teacher taught us this in 1976 when I was in Grade 8 studying WW-I thru WW-II.


9 posted on 08/10/2009 2:08:52 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DogBarkTree
Friends, Americans, Countrymen, take Resistance seriously. Kimber45practice
10 posted on 08/10/2009 2:11:17 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: lizol

> The General suggested that people be warned that victims who were buried here died of cholera, typhus, syphilis and other infectious diseases...

...with their hands tied behind their backs. The General must surely have thought the people gullible.


11 posted on 08/10/2009 2:11:24 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; lizol

This story deserves to be repeated.


12 posted on 08/10/2009 2:13:16 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Obama's Logo = BARASTIKA)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
“...cholera, typhus, syphilis...”

Not too much chance of getting those diseases from old corpses but the general wanted to scare people into not moving the remains.

13 posted on 08/10/2009 2:15:00 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Loud Mime

> This story deserves to be repeated.

Given the times that we live in, it surely does.


14 posted on 08/10/2009 2:16:28 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: autumnraine
This female FMLN urban cell guerrilla has only been dead a few hours but some cadavers in the streets of El Salvador were limed or burned by residents to combat the death odor until the bodies could be removed {November 1989}. Lime is on hand there and used in small quantities to stop mosquito growth in laundry cisterns. FMLN female cadaver near Nat. Univ.
15 posted on 08/10/2009 2:39:47 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I guess the Tea-Party protesters can be thankful that, so far, they've only been slimed.

Yes, not yet. The thoughts are there, I received this reply to a defense of Free Republic while on Twitter yesterday.

freepers "really awful human beings".

Orly Taintz will become prez! Obama's nazi health plan cures negros while white power becomes teri schiavo

bitch please you must have a mental disease

Justice Sotomayor will make sure you serve your sentence in a maximum security mental institution

16 posted on 08/10/2009 2:43:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Bet you didn’t learn the number of people killed by the Communists, bet you learned that Hitler was the biggest mass murder.

Number of people murdered score:
Nazi Fascist Hitler - 20,946,000
Communists Stalin & Mao - 138,613,000
Japanese Statists - 10,000,000
SouthEast Asian Communists - 5,300,000

Socialism to 1987 - 212,559,000
(give or take the odd million here and there)


17 posted on 08/10/2009 3:11:25 PM PDT by PIF
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To: DogBarkTree

Coming soon to a field near your town...

Fixed.


18 posted on 08/10/2009 3:13:20 PM PDT by PIF
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To: PIF

You would be right. 1970’s in Canada, in the middle of the Cold War, nobody was talking too much about the Soviet/ChiCom body count.

Do your SE Asian numbers reflect Khmer Rouge atrocities? (must do — and North Vietnamese. Laos?) How about Malaya? Philippines? Burma? Indonesia?

How about the Shining Path dudes in South America? They’d be good for a few thousand, surely...

If anything, perhaps your Socialism number is understated?


19 posted on 08/10/2009 4:19:29 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Includes Cambobia and Nam.

Other country’s numbers are too small to worry about - rounding errors, you know.

see: Source List and Detailed Death Tolls for the Twentieth Century Hemoclysm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

As far as I can find out from various sources the body count is fairly close. What one needs to pay attention to IMHO is the rise of death in wars - seems to rise logarithmically - so instead of 100’s of millions in this religious war we are in, we might expect the numbers to reach into the billions.


20 posted on 08/10/2009 4:44:56 PM PDT by PIF
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