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1 posted on 08/11/2009 10:23:29 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 08/11/2009 10:23:47 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Even though this is over in the UK, look for this kind of thing to show up here in the US soon, particularly the “domestic extremists” aspect coupled with the current administration’s attitude towards conservatives.


3 posted on 08/11/2009 10:29:22 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Islamofanatics" yet?)
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The fifth amendment allows you freedom from self incrimination.


4 posted on 08/11/2009 10:32:25 AM PDT by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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Death before decryption!


6 posted on 08/11/2009 10:32:45 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


7 posted on 08/11/2009 10:33:34 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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They not only have a Surveillance Commissioner, but they have enough of them that one ranks as CHIEF? And no one there has a problem with this?


8 posted on 08/11/2009 10:35:10 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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The British also repealed their 800 year old prohibition against double jeopardy in 2005.


10 posted on 08/11/2009 10:41:39 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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I can envision this happening here, the way things are going. Of course, for me, most of my encryption goes like: ime-tay oo-tay ive-gay e-thay ats-cay e-thay edicine-may. Unfortunately, my cats often seem to know how to encrypt this...


11 posted on 08/11/2009 10:49:01 AM PDT by MizSterious (Impeach Barak "let them eat cake" Obama, while there's still something of our Republic to save.)
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Wow! Do we really want to become more like the UK? That's a rhetorical question. We're still innocent until proven guilty and are not required to self-incriminate here. How long that lasts under the current administration, who can say.


13 posted on 08/11/2009 10:50:10 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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The solution to this seems to be straightforward. A one use decryption key is generated in another country. If sent to you on request, it will decrypt your files once. Once a week or so, you must provide that foreign source with a ping of some description, or it will no longer provide you with a key. Your files will be locked for good.

Of course this will require all sorts of security additions, maybe even multiple keys from multiple countries. And the hassle of having to ping some address once a week.

The downside is that in some cases, judges are citing for contempt even if you are unable to produce what they want. A man in Philadelphia was just released after being held for contempt for 14 years on the belief that he had hidden money from his ex-wife in a divorce case.

While this is terribly unfair, unless you give them the tools to convict and punish you, you may very well be punished.


15 posted on 08/11/2009 11:16:19 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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My heart sank when I read the headline, and then I realized it was in the UK. Don’t worry us like that :)


17 posted on 08/11/2009 3:07:24 PM PDT by aetheraddict
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These people need a 5th ammendment badly!


24 posted on 08/11/2009 6:50:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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"and domestic extremism"

Chilling!

25 posted on 08/11/2009 6:52:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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