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Single Payer and The Death of Baby Peter
http://www.youtube.com ^ | August 12, 2009 | Skynews(via Youtube)

Posted on 08/12/2009 11:20:15 PM PDT by Maelstorm

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: death; payer; peter; single
The NHS single payer health plan has been accused of systematic failings over the death of Baby P, after he was seen 35 times, but his injuries were never spotted.

How the UK's single-payer system killed 17,000 Britons
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/30896
1 posted on 08/12/2009 11:20:16 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm
"...but decided not to carry out a full check up because the child was described as miserable and cranky..."


2 posted on 08/13/2009 1:06:22 AM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

The old folks better not be miserable and cranky.


3 posted on 08/13/2009 1:07:34 AM PDT by Maelstorm (What would George Washington Do?)
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To: allmost

Btw: Glad you caught that. You were the first. I figured someone would have already but it is early in the morning. Come to think of it I’d probably go to bed.


4 posted on 08/13/2009 1:08:43 AM PDT by Maelstorm (What would George Washington Do?)
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If this is what I remember from several weeks ago, this particular systematic failure was a result of the desperation of the NHS to hold on to any doctor it possibly can, no matter how incompetent, because they are so scarce. Surprise! we find that there are some real dummies in the system that won’t go away until forced as a result of tragedies like this.


5 posted on 08/13/2009 1:10:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Liberals drink the kool-aid that Obama has puked.)
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To: allmost
Yeah really. 'Miserable and cranky' is a symptom for a child that young. The bureaucratic system's representative, think DMV, didn't want to deal with it. The boys dead. He parents must be devastated. It seems as though they did the right thing.
6 posted on 08/13/2009 1:13:40 AM PDT by allmost
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The problem is usually in the government as I have observed directly incompetent staff seldom are removed even when something like this occurs. They are moved around, no one is found guilty of anything, usually it becomes a conspiracy of errors beyond anyone’s control then a year later they give themselves big pats on the back about how much they have improved even though they are still only slightly less incompetent than the year before. Not all bureaucrats are bad but this type of thing happens precisely because of the natural way that bureaucracies stagnate and bulwark themselves in ways to serve the bureaucracy not the patients or those delivering the care.
The idea that a baby was not examined simply because he was miserable and cranky? Just thinking of that is just horrifically numbing.


7 posted on 08/13/2009 1:24:28 AM PDT by Maelstorm (What would George Washington Do?)
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Yes, that is one more layer of mischief.


8 posted on 08/13/2009 1:28:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Liberals drink the kool-aid that Obama has puked.)
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To: Maelstorm

And, the government misrunning of the system is a reason why the doctors are scarce. The doctors rightly view the system as a kind of hell on earth. Good enough ones will travel to another country and practice there. Others will never exist because they were daunted at the prospect and chose different, less trammeled careers.


9 posted on 08/13/2009 1:31:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Liberals drink the kool-aid that Obama has puked.)
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If you think the health staff are incompetent, just wait until all the staff are members of a federal union. Then they’ll be impossible to get rid of regardless how many lives they cost.


10 posted on 08/13/2009 2:47:16 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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“’Miserable and cranky’ is a symptom for a child that young.”

This is correct for any child of Baby Peter’s age at death (17 months), and even more so for a child in whom there has been involvement of area social services due to a concern for abuse and neglect. Children of that age do have a very well-defined sense of personal space and will generally cry and fight vigorously against attempts to do a medical exam. However, when the child is so agitated before any examination has begun, that is a red flag for pain or severe illness. A child of that age should have every inch of his body examined by the physician, simply because the child cannot verbalize pain.

The baby had been taken to a pediatrician at a developmental center due to the concern for abuse. The doctor stated she didn’t do a full exam, but I wonder if she even touched the child. Most abused children are fairly thin...if she had examined his chest or back in any way she would not only have noticed bruises but could very likely have seen or felt the calluses formed by recent rib fractures in the early stages of healing. In an article I read, this doctor stated that Baby Peter looked no different from a child his age with a cold, and offered that he was sitting without support as evidence for that assertion. Since a child learns to sit without support at age six months, that Peter was doing so at age 17 months does not satisfy criteria for being developmentally appropriate much less free of abuse.

In short, while the health care and social workers who performed the more than 60 visits with the family in the months before Baby Peter died were nothing less than comletely inept, the physician who performed the exam days before Baby Peter died was grossly negligent.


11 posted on 08/13/2009 3:49:58 AM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (Screw Obamastan...I'm going off to find John Galt.)
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To: OrangeHoof

And the worst offenders are promoted out of the department. Hey, is that how politicians get their jobs?


12 posted on 08/13/2009 5:22:24 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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