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Health Care Stirs Up Whole Foods CEO John Mackey, Customers Boycott Organic Grocery Store
ABC News.com ^ | 08/14/09 | EMILY FRIEDMAN

Posted on 08/14/2009 10:08:31 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

Joshua has been taking the bus to his local Whole Foods in New York City every five days for the past two years. This week, he said he'll go elsewhere to fulfill his fresh vegetable and organic produce needs.

"I will never shop there again," vowed Joshua, a 45-year-old blogger, who asked that his last name not be published.

Like many of his fellow health food fanatics, Joshua said he will no longer patronize the store after learning about Whole Foods Market Inc.'s CEO John Mackey's views on health care reform, which were made public this week in an op-ed piece he wrote for The Wall Street Journal.

Michael Lent, another Whole Foods enthusiast in Long Beach, Calif., told ABCNews.com that he, too, will turn to other organic groceries for his weekly shopping list.

"I'm boycotting [Whole Foods] because all Americans need health care," said Lent, 33, who used to visit his local Whole Foods "several times a week."

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KEYWORDS: healthcare; mackey; reform; socialism; universal; wholefoods
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I love it when liberals eat their own. Mackey's (the WholeFood's CEO) has a WSJ op-ed that is actually quite good and worth a read. It can be found here...

The Whole Foods Alternative to ObamaCare

1 posted on 08/14/2009 10:08:31 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Waiting for the story about all the people who started going to Whole Foods, or returned there, after reading Mackey’s WSH piece. This is more agitprop from ABC. a pillar of the mainstream media, which apparently thinks the entire country is hopelessly naive and ignorant.


2 posted on 08/14/2009 10:11:30 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: OldDeckHand

How telling though that ABC doesn’t say, “Here are five new shoppers that decided to use Whole Foods based upon this view espoused by the CEO”. It is always steering the conversation, not reporting news. Hopefully, these media outlets die a natural death.


3 posted on 08/14/2009 10:12:01 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: La Lydia

You beat me by 30 seconds. Good job.


4 posted on 08/14/2009 10:13:12 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: OldDeckHand

I find this odd about the Wholefoods defectors:

They trust that Wholefoods’ founder has a better idea when it comes to eating right, which is obviously a health-related activity, but they can’t imagine he might have a better idea about improving health care in the USA.


5 posted on 08/14/2009 10:15:45 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Joshua, just take a painkllier and it will be all right


6 posted on 08/14/2009 10:16:13 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Pacemakers, not painkillers.)
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To: OldDeckHand

This boycott will last about a week. These liberal snobs cant stand to shop where the regular folks go.


7 posted on 08/14/2009 10:16:37 AM PDT by freespirited (The Surgeon General has determined that Harry and Louise are dangerous to your health.)
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To: OldDeckHand

ABC news is nothing but a parrot organization for the dnc.


8 posted on 08/14/2009 10:16:39 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: OldDeckHand
"I'm boycotting [Whole Foods] because all Americans need health care,"

Did the idiot even read the article? This is no rebuttal at all. As Mackey points out, all American's need food and shelter too, but that doesn't create a "right" to them.

9 posted on 08/14/2009 10:17:19 AM PDT by mlo
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To: La Lydia

Apparently, Whole Foods covers 89% of it’s employees with some kind of health plan. The folks who decided to shop elsewhere need to ask their new vendors if they, too, cover 89% of their employees. A side note: the ‘organic movement’ is a sham. People go out of their way to buy produce that has no significant nutritional advantage over non-organic crops.


10 posted on 08/14/2009 10:17:34 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: OldDeckHand

Thanks for the URL. Good article. If only more “liberals” and “progressives” made as much sense.


11 posted on 08/14/2009 10:18:02 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Though liberal, Mackey is a “evil capitalist” who runs a highly successful and profitable business. The Am-Coms hate that he isn't Left enough.
12 posted on 08/14/2009 10:19:40 AM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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To: OldDeckHand

“a 45-year-old blogger”

Get a real job, low-life.


13 posted on 08/14/2009 10:20:24 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: joejm65

“A side note: the ‘organic movement’ is a sham. People go out of their way to buy produce that has no significant nutritional advantage over non-organic crops.”

Agreed, thanks for pointing that out. Now just try and convince all the hippies of that.


14 posted on 08/14/2009 10:21:08 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Mackey’s op-ed is a great example of ‘value creation’. The government touts ‘value capture’ or methods of taking value from the system which always fails. (Hence the economy today. Where can you find ‘value creation’?)


15 posted on 08/14/2009 10:21:31 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: joejm65

“A side note: the ‘organic movement’ is a sham. People go out of their way to buy produce that has no significant nutritional advantage over non-organic crops.”

Agreed, thanks for pointing that out. Now just try and convince all the hippies of that.


16 posted on 08/14/2009 10:21:42 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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To: joejm65

“A side note: the ‘organic movement’ is a sham. People go out of their way to buy produce that has no significant nutritional advantage over non-organic crops.”

Agreed, thanks for pointing that out. Now just try and convince all the hippies of that.


17 posted on 08/14/2009 10:22:00 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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To: Parley Baer

I’m boycotting ABC news. When it comes on the radio, I tune to a different station or turn the radio off.


18 posted on 08/14/2009 10:23:13 AM PDT by Need4Truth (Downsizing government is more than just reducing taxes.)
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To: garyhope

My apologies for the triple comment. My isp is slow today.


19 posted on 08/14/2009 10:23:20 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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To: joejm65

I shop at Whole Foods on a regular basis but not because they sell “organic” food rather for items that my local Ralphs (Kroger’s brand out here)doesn’t carry. Some of their stuff is more expensive than the local supermarket chain and some is less (Autumn Wheat cereal for example is cheaper by a $1 a box) They do carry a better quality meat and some produce that I can’t buy at Ralphs and it’s easier than timing my visits to the Farmers Markets to buy some of the heirloom melons, etc.


20 posted on 08/14/2009 10:23:28 AM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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To: swain_forkbeard
They trust that Wholefoods’ founder has a better idea when it comes to eating right, which is obviously a health-related activity, but they can’t imagine he might have a better idea about improving health care in the USA. Good Point.
21 posted on 08/14/2009 10:23:44 AM PDT by PrincessB (The comments written under this section shall not be treated as comments)
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To: joejm65
"A side note: the ‘organic movement’ is a sham. People go out of their way to buy produce that has no significant nutritional advantage over non-organic crops."

This is true. "Organic" has absolutely no health benefits.

But, Whole Foods is my favorite grocery store because they have great stuff, much of which you can't find easily elsewhere. And I'll say this, "organic" may not be healthier, but I've found that it often tastes better for some reason.

Of course, after the WSJ editorial I have even more reason to like Whole Foods. All the money I made of Whole Foods options doesn't hurt either. :-)

22 posted on 08/14/2009 10:24:32 AM PDT by mlo
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To: OldDeckHand

I figure ol’ Josh will take one trip down to the local Food Lion or whatever passes for a fourth-rate cut-price supermarket up in NYC, and he’ll be back in the land of overpriced arugula in no time. Limo liberals like Josh know what’s best for the working man, as long as they don’t actually have to shop where he shops or eat where he eats. You just know he wouldn’t be caught DEAD in a Wal-Mart.

}:-)4


23 posted on 08/14/2009 10:25:20 AM PDT by Moose4 (I took my car in for an alignment. Now my front end is chaotic evil.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Liberals hired a big Hollywood PR firm to push boycotts... Is there anything about liberals that isn’t a lie?


24 posted on 08/14/2009 10:25:53 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: OldDeckHand

Hey libtards,

Keep your laws off my body!


25 posted on 08/14/2009 10:26:49 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: mlo

Also, not all of their produce is organic. Their website makes that statement.

I love Whole Foods but the prices stop me at times.


26 posted on 08/14/2009 10:26:55 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: joejm65

I buy my dairy and meat there so I can get stuff that doesn’t have cow hormones and animal antibiotics in it. I buy seafood there because it is the highest quality available where I live. I love their produce, regardless of the organic label (as if inorganic were the alternative) because it is just so darn good. I also like their Asian and Latin sections. The organic movement, and labeling, I agree with you, is a sham. People need to do their own research, read labels and ask questions. I would be happy for the government to butt out of this, because I trust Whole Foods more than I do the FDA.


27 posted on 08/14/2009 10:28:38 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Parley Baer
ABC news is nothing but a parrot organization for the dnc.

ABC NEVER takes a position that is not part of the liberal playbook.

Never.

ABC News should be treated like a paid political advertisement.

28 posted on 08/14/2009 10:29:20 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: Moose4
I figure ol’ Josh will take one trip down to the local Food Lion or whatever passes for a fourth-rate cut-price supermarket up in NYC, and he’ll be back in the land of overpriced arugula in no time.

Hey, wait a minute --- I like my local Food Lion, they don't have them in NYC. LOL!!!!

29 posted on 08/14/2009 10:29:24 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: joejm65
People go out of their way to buy produce that has no significant nutritional advantage over non-organic crops.

I don't care about it being organic, but Whole Foods has a much greater variety of exotic fruits & vegetables. It's one of the only places I can get fresh figs. I don't live near one, but I'll be in the neighborhood Sunday so I'll be sure to stop in, and if I have time I'll capture a manager and tell him I went out of my way because of their healthcare plan.

30 posted on 08/14/2009 10:29:24 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: OldDeckHand

I think it’s funny while Mackey’s views are turning liberals off to whole foods, they are drawing in conservatives/libertarians!


31 posted on 08/14/2009 10:29:38 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: BunnySlippers

Whole Foods appeals to snobs and the value of their produce is questionable. Just cause stuff looks good, doesn’t mean that it is. We kinda laugh at friends who rave over it and pay a lot to do it.
We shop at an Asian market and get vege’s at a quarter the price.


32 posted on 08/14/2009 10:30:37 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: OldDeckHand

The whole purpose of this article is to create unnecessary drama which is starting to irritate me much more than entertain me. Why not, ABC, analyze the value of Mr. Mackey’s statements? Find a couple of people who could honestly critique his position and interview them.

Instead we have the “Oh the huge manatee - I just CAN’T shop from some one who disagrees with me” and the boycott bogeymen. So like the old neigbor ABC is twitching the curtains while gossiping with a few neighbors, hoping they get to report on a trainwreck.


33 posted on 08/14/2009 10:30:46 AM PDT by PrincessB (The comments written under this section shall not be treated as comments)
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To: GOPJ

All except John Stossel.


34 posted on 08/14/2009 10:30:54 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: joejm65
"A side note: the ‘organic movement’ is a sham. People go out of their way to buy produce that has no significant nutritional advantage over non-organic crops."

I think much of it is a sham, but some of it has some validity. As an example, you can give me two apples, one organic and the other bathed in chemicals and I couldn't tell the difference - except that there would be a good chance the "organic" one would have a worm or two.

But, when it comes to meat, I can easily tell the difference. IMHO, grass fed, free ranging beef tastes MUCH better than the grocery-store bought grain-fed, pen-raised beef. There's really no comparison. And, I would venture to guess that most people, in a blind taste test, would pick the former and not the latter.

The premise applies to natural, line-caught salmon vs. pen-raised salmon fed with grain and "dyed" red (the grain pellets don't have enough of the right kinds of minerals and vitamins to actually produce red salmon meat). And the "happy pig" organically raised pigs produce a much tastier meat than the other kinds of "industrialized" farming pigs. FWIW.

35 posted on 08/14/2009 10:31:08 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: swain_forkbeard
They trust that Wholefoods’ founder has a better idea when it comes to eating right, which is obviously a health-related activity, but they can’t imagine he might have a better idea about improving health care in the USA

Yes, an excellent point. I've been a fan of medical savings accountsfor a very long time. I've felt that it would be the best free market solution to our health care need.

The reason insurance doesn't work very well is because we don't use it for what insurance should be; protection for an out of the ordinary event. We should pay for our health care out of pocket and only insure ourselves against the rare out of the ordinary event. We shouldn't expect insurance to cover first dollar (or close to it). In this way we could each have our own portable insurance plan that we could carry around with us. It wouldn't matter if we changed jobs because our employer would not have to offer insurance. They would just divert an amount of our paycheck over to medical savings account. It would cost them nothing.

I'm not familiar with the details of Whole Foods Medical but from listening on the radio to people talk about it, that's essentially the way it works.

Now I'm gonna read the article.


But details aside the Free Market plans would always be the best for the most people.
36 posted on 08/14/2009 10:31:36 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: garyhope

‘Agreed, thanks for pointing that out. Now just try and convince all the hippies of that.’

I’m trying, one friend at a time. There’s a farmer’s market around the corner from me that sets up every Saturday from around May to October. Last week, they were selling organic tomatoes for $6/lb. A friend was buying peaches for $5/lb. This friend who was paying these prices found another, cheaper place to buy these things after listening to me scream ‘are you nuts???’ for a few months. This market is frequented mostly by Yale students and faculty, so I personally don’t care if they get ripped off. However, these vendors accept food stamps, and that irks me. I believe in helping people out who don’t have enough money to feed themselves, but I also believe they have a responsibility to stretch their food $$$ as much as possible. New Haven is Grand Welfare Station, so complaining is pointless. I wish I had enough land to farm full-time, I’d be rich in no time at all.


37 posted on 08/14/2009 10:32:51 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: OldDeckHand

I sent off this WSJ op-ed to my Organic Moon-Bat friend in another state.
I figure it will take a week or so for her to come back with a snappy retort.


38 posted on 08/14/2009 10:36:55 AM PDT by Pompah
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To: swain_forkbeard

Excellent point.


39 posted on 08/14/2009 10:37:15 AM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (I'd rather be a birther than a leg tingler!)
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To: Oldexpat

I find that people who jate Whole Foods are resverse snobs ... classist.

Much of their produce is stellar. I bought a bunch of dill a couple of weeks ago and it was easily better than that at the high end Gelson’s Market.

Their prepared foods are incredible. I love the Golden Beet Salad with Fennel, the Bacon Wrapped Chicken and the Breakfast Pizzas. The whole cooked meals are a terrific time saver ... I pick one up on the way home from work sometimes.

I was looking for an obscure type of mustard recently and I stopped counting their varieties at around 80 ... there were more. I never found my brand though.

They have wonderful bath and grooming products. I love pine-scented baths and I can find cosmetics that appeal to me.

Terrific cheese selection, olive selection, fish, meats and even BBQ.

I often don’t go because of the high prices. But to say it is no good is just sour grapes.


40 posted on 08/14/2009 10:38:03 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: OldDeckHand

I agree about organic meats usually tasting better, though free range chicken is a little too gamey for me. My previous posts refered just to fruits and veggies. And, IMO, the organic fruits and veggies look sickly and underdeveloped compared to non-organic choices.


41 posted on 08/14/2009 10:38:14 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: OldDeckHand
"I will never shop there again," vowed Joshua, a 45-year-old blogger

Fine. I'll pick up his slack.

42 posted on 08/14/2009 10:39:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Your opinion is doubleplusungoodthinkful. You have been reported to flag@whitehouse.gov.)
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To: OldDeckHand
I'm gonna see if there is a Whole Foods near me now....they just got a new customer.

Shove it, Hussein cultists.

43 posted on 08/14/2009 10:40:00 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: truthguy

Yes. I want high-deductible, catastrophic coverage and a HSA. I want choice and competition in insurance providers.
I don’t want to pay for someone else to have coverage for obesity, abortion, accupuncture, schwing-meds, or hangnail.


44 posted on 08/14/2009 10:41:21 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: La Lydia
I basically agree with you. Organic food is a fraud of sorts. It's no better for you than non-organic. You can eat well with either or poorly with either.

I shop at Whole Foods occasionally. It's usually product specific. I'd estimate I shop there 10-15% of the time. But for most of the time their products are simply too expensive. I can buy just as good olive oil, pasta, or general items at the regular supermarkets.

As an interesting experiment, the next time you are in Whole Foods, look at the percentage of people who are carrying a hand basket vs a push cart. You will find that at Whole Foods a much higher percentage of people are carrying a hand basket. This tells me they are shopping for very specific items when they are in the store. They probably go over to the discount super market right after they leave Whole Foods. I know I do.
45 posted on 08/14/2009 10:41:21 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: OldDeckHand
I shop there all the time and will continue to do so, esp because of John Mackey's comments. Whole Foods Market is consistently ranked in the top 100 companies to work for a reason. If some obscure liberal blogger doesn't want to shop there anymore because of a real health care reform proposal based on real proven solutions that work then that's good thing IMO.

Not wanting toxic pesticides on your food is NOT a sham. For that matter, not wanting growth hormone in your meat and dairy isn't either. It's called choice, Whole Foods, among others, provides that choice. There's a reason main stream grocery stores have an organic section and many farmers are moving back to toxic free (organic) agriculture.

For those who think Whole Foods is too expensive, I did a price comparison yesterday of shelf items I buy there with a mainstream store and there was no difference FWIW. The difference is that at Whole Foods, I can buy in bulk and not pay for marketing, and Whole Foods has a discount brand, called 365. But hey, there's always Trader Joe's, if you're lucky to have one.

46 posted on 08/14/2009 10:43:37 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: OldDeckHand
I think this is a great thing. Let's divide the country up into companies that are patronized by conservatives and those that are patronized by liberals. Let's see who wins.

Μολὼν λάβε


47 posted on 08/14/2009 10:45:59 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: OldDeckHand

WHOLE FOODS WEB SITE: FIND YOUR LOCAL GROCER, GIVE 'EM SOME BUSINESS...AT LEAST THEIR C.E.O. ISN'T DRINKING THE HUSSEIN KOOL-AID....

48 posted on 08/14/2009 10:46:16 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: joejm65
Thanks for the reply. I used to live in California and you can imagine some of my friends “health” beliefs there.

Trying to convince any “liberal” or “progressive” of anything is a daunting if not impossible task. They all seem totally inured, if not outright hostile to anything rational, reasonable or logical.

I'm losing friends and simply don't want to talk with a lot of former “friends” or acquaintances.

I don't think it's just me. I think it's happening all over the country to lots and lots of people.

The divide is vast and deep It almost seems like the denouement of America and Western civilization to me.

49 posted on 08/14/2009 10:46:48 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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To: OldDeckHand

The left and all the “peace” loving “liberal” hippie scum are really a bunch of self-righteous, intolerant, hypocritical fascists aren’t they all?


50 posted on 08/14/2009 10:49:18 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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