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Health Care Stirs Up Whole Foods CEO John Mackey, Customers Boycott Organic Grocery Store
ABC News.com ^ | 08/14/09 | EMILY FRIEDMAN

Posted on 08/14/2009 10:08:31 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

Joshua has been taking the bus to his local Whole Foods in New York City every five days for the past two years. This week, he said he'll go elsewhere to fulfill his fresh vegetable and organic produce needs.

"I will never shop there again," vowed Joshua, a 45-year-old blogger, who asked that his last name not be published.

Like many of his fellow health food fanatics, Joshua said he will no longer patronize the store after learning about Whole Foods Market Inc.'s CEO John Mackey's views on health care reform, which were made public this week in an op-ed piece he wrote for The Wall Street Journal.

Michael Lent, another Whole Foods enthusiast in Long Beach, Calif., told ABCNews.com that he, too, will turn to other organic groceries for his weekly shopping list.

"I'm boycotting [Whole Foods] because all Americans need health care," said Lent, 33, who used to visit his local Whole Foods "several times a week."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; mackey; reform; socialism; universal; wholefoods
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To: OldDeckHand

I agree about organic meats usually tasting better, though free range chicken is a little too gamey for me. My previous posts refered just to fruits and veggies. And, IMO, the organic fruits and veggies look sickly and underdeveloped compared to non-organic choices.


41 posted on 08/14/2009 10:38:14 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: OldDeckHand
"I will never shop there again," vowed Joshua, a 45-year-old blogger

Fine. I'll pick up his slack.

42 posted on 08/14/2009 10:39:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Your opinion is doubleplusungoodthinkful. You have been reported to flag@whitehouse.gov.)
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To: OldDeckHand
I'm gonna see if there is a Whole Foods near me now....they just got a new customer.

Shove it, Hussein cultists.

43 posted on 08/14/2009 10:40:00 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: truthguy

Yes. I want high-deductible, catastrophic coverage and a HSA. I want choice and competition in insurance providers.
I don’t want to pay for someone else to have coverage for obesity, abortion, accupuncture, schwing-meds, or hangnail.


44 posted on 08/14/2009 10:41:21 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: La Lydia
I basically agree with you. Organic food is a fraud of sorts. It's no better for you than non-organic. You can eat well with either or poorly with either.

I shop at Whole Foods occasionally. It's usually product specific. I'd estimate I shop there 10-15% of the time. But for most of the time their products are simply too expensive. I can buy just as good olive oil, pasta, or general items at the regular supermarkets.

As an interesting experiment, the next time you are in Whole Foods, look at the percentage of people who are carrying a hand basket vs a push cart. You will find that at Whole Foods a much higher percentage of people are carrying a hand basket. This tells me they are shopping for very specific items when they are in the store. They probably go over to the discount super market right after they leave Whole Foods. I know I do.
45 posted on 08/14/2009 10:41:21 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: OldDeckHand
I shop there all the time and will continue to do so, esp because of John Mackey's comments. Whole Foods Market is consistently ranked in the top 100 companies to work for a reason. If some obscure liberal blogger doesn't want to shop there anymore because of a real health care reform proposal based on real proven solutions that work then that's good thing IMO.

Not wanting toxic pesticides on your food is NOT a sham. For that matter, not wanting growth hormone in your meat and dairy isn't either. It's called choice, Whole Foods, among others, provides that choice. There's a reason main stream grocery stores have an organic section and many farmers are moving back to toxic free (organic) agriculture.

For those who think Whole Foods is too expensive, I did a price comparison yesterday of shelf items I buy there with a mainstream store and there was no difference FWIW. The difference is that at Whole Foods, I can buy in bulk and not pay for marketing, and Whole Foods has a discount brand, called 365. But hey, there's always Trader Joe's, if you're lucky to have one.

46 posted on 08/14/2009 10:43:37 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: OldDeckHand
I think this is a great thing. Let's divide the country up into companies that are patronized by conservatives and those that are patronized by liberals. Let's see who wins.

Μολὼν λάβε


47 posted on 08/14/2009 10:45:59 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: OldDeckHand

WHOLE FOODS WEB SITE: FIND YOUR LOCAL GROCER, GIVE 'EM SOME BUSINESS...AT LEAST THEIR C.E.O. ISN'T DRINKING THE HUSSEIN KOOL-AID....

48 posted on 08/14/2009 10:46:16 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: joejm65
Thanks for the reply. I used to live in California and you can imagine some of my friends “health” beliefs there.

Trying to convince any “liberal” or “progressive” of anything is a daunting if not impossible task. They all seem totally inured, if not outright hostile to anything rational, reasonable or logical.

I'm losing friends and simply don't want to talk with a lot of former “friends” or acquaintances.

I don't think it's just me. I think it's happening all over the country to lots and lots of people.

The divide is vast and deep It almost seems like the denouement of America and Western civilization to me.

49 posted on 08/14/2009 10:46:48 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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To: OldDeckHand

The left and all the “peace” loving “liberal” hippie scum are really a bunch of self-righteous, intolerant, hypocritical fascists aren’t they all?


50 posted on 08/14/2009 10:49:18 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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To: truthguy

I do too. I am especially with you on the olive oil and the pasta. Not to mention the paper towels, tooth paste, etc., and I prefer a bakery for my bread. I’m not impressed with their baked goods. But at my Whole Foods, I see more people with the basket doing a week’s worth. Can’t imagine what their grocery bill is like.


51 posted on 08/14/2009 10:51:00 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: garyhope

“People go out of their way to buy produce that has no significant nutritional advantage”

Got that right! 3 minutes from my house is an Aldi, ocean fish and fruit. 10 minutes away is a Chinese grocery for vegetables. Local Farmer’s market is 15 minutes away.


52 posted on 08/14/2009 10:51:15 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: garyhope

‘I’m losing friends and simply don’t want to talk with a lot of former “friends” or acquaintances.’

I hear ya. I just deleted over 1/2 of my Facebook ‘friends’ because I got sick of reading their pro-Zero, anti-Palin nonsense. I’ve known some of these people from 30 years ago. And, good riddance. I’d rather chat on FR and enjoy the discourse than bite my tounge around people who look at me as someone ‘less than them’.


53 posted on 08/14/2009 10:56:57 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: FTJM
"I shop there all the time and will continue to do so, esp because of John Mackey's comments. "

Good post. I'm a customer - not weekly, but once a month or so. And, they just have superior quality products compared to my local Kroger. And, I'll admit it. I like good food - it's the one thing me and Obama have in common. Arugula? Love it. Kobe beef? Gotta have it, can't afford it. Sierra Pale Ale over Bud Light? No doubt.

Is Whole Foods more expensive? Maybe. But, I'm not buying the same products at Whole Foods as I'm buying at Kroger, so it's hard to tell. As you point out, I'm guessing that on like products, they're close to equally priced.

And, you make a great point about choice. It's nice to have a Whole Foods alternative. I don't necessarily want my government telling me what I can and can't buy, but I do appreciate the option of deciding for myself. And, Whole Foods gives me that option.

54 posted on 08/14/2009 10:57:42 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: bolobaby
Get a real job, low-life.

Catch post #52 over on this thread.... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2315917/posts

55 posted on 08/14/2009 11:01:53 AM PDT by wbill
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To: OldDeckHand

A moot point, because neither of us will spend the money to test you, but I would venture to guess that you, in a series of properly-administered, double-blind taste tests, could not consistently, repeatedly differentiate between identically-prepared grass fed, free ranging beef and grocery-store bought grain-fed, pen-raised beef. Like I said, there’ll be no comparison, because neither of us is willing to pay for the testing, but, really...


56 posted on 08/14/2009 11:02:06 AM PDT by flowerplough (You're going to destroy my presidency! -Bammy, quoted second-hand by Chuck Grassley)
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To: Gabz

The Food Lion up the road from me here in Nifongville is borderline scary. The prices aren’t that cheap, the service is rude, the place is dumpy, and maybe half of the clientele at any given time speaks English, maximum. I figure, any supermarket that has an armed, uniformed security guard on-premises in the middle of the day is one I’d rather give a pass if I can.

We do the bulk of our shopping at the local Super Target and fill in the gaps at Harris Teeter, with occasional splurge trips to the State Farmers’ Market down in Raleigh.

}:-)4


57 posted on 08/14/2009 11:05:23 AM PDT by Moose4 (I took my car in for an alignment. Now my front end is chaotic evil.)
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To: swain_forkbeard
This is one of the things that really bothers me. Liberals will go out and spend a ton of money at Whole Foods, buy expensive supplements, pay for specialty coffees, go for ‘alternative therapies’, etc., but don't want to pay for health care. ?
58 posted on 08/14/2009 11:06:19 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: joejm65
A side note: the ‘organic movement’ is a sham. People go out of their way to buy produce that has no significant nutritional advantage over non-organic crops.

Agreed about the 'organic' thing but Whole Foods quality of products is just better than your average grocery store.
59 posted on 08/14/2009 11:24:01 AM PDT by BJClinton (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: joejm65

I’m also thinking of “deactivating” my FB account. The whole thing seems very narcissistic and trivial. I figure that many of the frequent posters must have no life or are very lonely.

And all this “communicating” takes a lot of time, thought and effort.

And it’s not like I’m ever going to convince any “liberal” or Dim Dhim to change their stripes or thoughts or lifestyle. They are “true believers” devoid of any capacity to think pragmatically.


60 posted on 08/14/2009 11:32:33 AM PDT by garyhope ( It's world war IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islamofascism.)
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