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What percentage of black REPUBLICANS voted for Obama?
August 14, 2009

Posted on 08/14/2009 8:00:47 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar
I don't blame blacks for voting for the first black president.

But I will blame them, especially black conservatives, if they do it again.

In my mind, it will be racist.

61 posted on 08/14/2009 10:46:40 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: TheThinker

The increase in the percentage of the black vote for Barack Obama was not that great. Blacks are a strong Democratic constituency group. Al Gore got 90% of the black vote. John Kerry got 88%. In fact since Carter, no Democratic candidate has received less than 82% of the black vote.
What surprised me in 2008 was that Obama got 78% of the Jewish vote. Jews were second only to blacks as a Democratic constituency group in 2008 with Latinos coming in third at 67% for Democrats and Asians were fourth at 62% for Obama.


62 posted on 08/14/2009 11:12:24 PM PDT by jamese777
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The black vote may be just a strong or perhaps a bit weaker in 2012. The Jewish vote will be much lower, I think, followed by Asians and Hispanics.

Obama served his purpose for the latter two groups, the first minority attaining the presidency. As for Jews, I think more and more of them are recognizing Obama's disdain for Jews.

63 posted on 08/14/2009 11:35:12 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: TheThinker

Particularly given the GOP gave none of us much to vote for in the last campaign. If the GOP nominee is a more inspiring candidate, ie Palin, I would think black conservatives would be more likely to vote GOP.


64 posted on 08/14/2009 11:43:05 PM PDT by JLS
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To: jamese777
with Latinos coming in third at 67% for Democrats

Not Protestant Hispanics who made up about 32% of the Hispanic vote, they went about 48% for McCain after going 56% for Bush in 2004.

65 posted on 08/14/2009 11:49:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: EveningStar

Sadly, I beleive J.C. Watts voted for 0bama.

At least I think he regrets it now.


66 posted on 08/15/2009 1:52:25 AM PDT by AmericanSphinx71 (A revolution is near!)
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To: EveningStar

Well as I recall JC Watts danced around the question on Hannity’s show so I’d say about six or seven actually did.
http://www.collinsreport.net/2008/11/17/the-myth-of-black-conservatism/


67 posted on 08/15/2009 4:24:15 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: papasmurf

There are a lot more than five AA freepers. I think we’d all be shocked if we knew who was posting here.


68 posted on 08/15/2009 6:08:10 AM PDT by ladyjane (Where is Michelle? Perhaps having plastic surgery?)
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To: papasmurf

There are a lot more than five AA freepers. I think we’d all be shocked if we knew who was posting here.


69 posted on 08/15/2009 6:08:16 AM PDT by ladyjane (Where is Michelle? Perhaps having plastic surgery?)
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To: EveningStar

If you figure 10% of blacks are Republicans—which is overgenerous—and 12% of the voters are black, you could assume that 1.2% of voters are black Republicans, for which you’d need a survey of nearly 50,000 randomly selected voters to get a statistically valid result.


70 posted on 08/15/2009 6:20:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: airborne

I agree that it’s pointless to pander to blacks but I do think it can be fruitful (and it’s the right thing to do) for conservatives to stand firm against real racism and to show enough sensitivity to the issue so that it’s not easy to make the claims of racism stick. The assumption that conservatives are racist doesn’t only hurt Republicans with blacks but with other non-white groups and even a sizable number of whites. As such, it’s in the best interest of conservatives to reasonably avoid the appearance of racism and to condemn real racism when it pops up among conservatives.


71 posted on 08/15/2009 7:08:06 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: radiohead

Check out my redaction after that, In the process of writing my reply, I thought the question was “How many voted for McCain.” If you read my reply, it makes no sense otherwise. Unless you are a liberal, ideology trumps identity politics.


72 posted on 08/15/2009 8:15:55 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? (Obama's teleprompter doesn't speak for me.)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Thanks for the link. :)


73 posted on 08/15/2009 9:52:06 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: ansel12

Not Protestant Hispanics who made up about 32% of the Hispanic vote, they went about 48% for McCain after going 56% for Bush in 2004.


But overall Senator McCain was only able to get 31% of the Latino vote while George W. Bush managed to get 44%. With the numbers of Latinos voting growing more larger in each national election, it is imperative that Republicans do better.


74 posted on 08/15/2009 10:37:37 AM PDT by jamese777
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You already said that and I will repeat my point, there is no such thing as “the Hispanic vote”, there is a Catholic Hispanic vote and a Protestant Hispanic vote.

That means there is something to study there.

“Not Protestant Hispanics who made up about 32% of the Hispanic vote, they went about 48% for McCain after going 56% for Bush in 2004.”


75 posted on 08/15/2009 10:48:22 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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You already said that and I will repeat my point, there is no such thing as “the Hispanic vote”, there is a Catholic Hispanic vote and a Protestant Hispanic vote.

That means there is something to study there.

“Not Protestant Hispanics who made up about 32% of the Hispanic vote, they went about 48% for McCain after going 56% for Bush in 2004.”


OK, I’ll play along.
McCain was not able to win a majority of support among 32% of the Hispanic constituency group while Bush was able to win a majority of protestant Latinos.
Whether Roman Catholic or Protestant, we’re talking about 9% of the electorate in 2008. So in reality, we’re talking about 32% of 9%.


76 posted on 08/15/2009 11:35:24 AM PDT by jamese777
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The point is that even in the year of Obama, McCain won 48% of the Protestant Hispanic vote.

The Protestant Hispanic vote is roughly a 50/50 vote split between democrats and republicans, that needs to be known, acknowledged, and studied, and used by republicans in a district by district basis.

Being ignorant and continuing to think that “Hispanics” vote a certain way when they don’t is a block to unraveling the path to winning over the Hispanic vote of both religious blocks.


77 posted on 08/15/2009 12:26:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

The point is that even in the year of Obama, McCain won 48% of the Protestant Hispanic vote.

The Protestant Hispanic vote is roughly a 50/50 vote split between democrats and republicans, that needs to be known, acknowledged, and studied, and used by republicans in a district by district basis.

Being ignorant and continuing to think that “Hispanics” vote a certain way when they don’t is a block to unraveling the path to winning over the Hispanic vote of both religious blocks.


You can continue to thing any way that you want. The bottom line FOR ME is that 67% of the Hispanic/Latino community voted for Obama and 31% of that community voted for McCain, regardless of what religions they might practice.
I am not alone in viewing the Hispanic community as a whole, so does the Wall Street Journal:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/08/13/winning-the-west-democrats-focus-on-hispanic-voters/


78 posted on 08/15/2009 1:09:18 PM PDT by jamese777
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Don’t be defensive, it is only information about voter demographics.

Accept this information that is new to you. Write a letter to the pro-immigration Wall Street Journal telling them what you have learned.


79 posted on 08/15/2009 1:38:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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“Don’t be defensive, it is only information about voter demographics.

Accept this information that is new to you. Write a letter to the pro-immigration Wall Street Journal telling them what you have learned.”


I’m not the least bit “defensive!” I’ve really enjoyed the discussion.
Take good care.


80 posted on 08/15/2009 2:38:55 PM PDT by jamese777
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