Posted on 08/16/2009 5:03:02 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
Doctor talking about defensive medicine and tort reform.
Wallace, does prevention actually save money?
Wallace to Shelby: does RAT-plan actually save money? Malpractice reform? Shelby says it will explode costs.
Shelby: "We have the best health system in the world, we need to expand it, not destroy it."
The doctor thinks the "savings in the system" would be sigificant. This was RAT-speak jargon during implementation of Maine's Dirigo. Turned out to be a big whopper. Amounted to banning hospitals from making improvements such as emergency rooms.
Wallace to Shelby: Rationing?
Shelby, look at the Canadian, British plans and long lines, of course there will be rationing.
Death panels...doctor says it's wrong, a lie.
Doctor referring to pregnancy as a pre-existing condition.
To Conrad re: "gang of six" bipartisan group, have you already dropped the end of life counseling in your plan.
Wallace, I thought there was no deadline? Conrad, waiting for answers from CBO, not bound to any deadline.
In many cases if a patient insisted on a particular drug that is not authorised by NICE they have been told they would have to pay for the treatment relating to this medical problem if they purchased the drug. Though through many test cases this is now changing and in a few cases you are being allowed to “top up”.
This makes me really made because when they want you to “top up” in others areas this is considered the norm such as with dad's carers. We only get a certain amount paid and have to make a weekly top up contribution of about 48 pounds sterling. Why if this is and has been considered the norm with care is it not with medical costs. They get round it by saying it is a different body one is personal care and the other is medical care.
No problem! A big difference is that tweets are limited to 140 characters. They thus lend themselves to breezy and abbreviated comments, and indeed while she was still guv Palin used them that way. That unfortunately played into the completely unfair, shallow-airhead caricature that the Left/media had painted of her, and William Shatner lampooned them by reading them as poetry on Letterman, I think it was.
But she’s actually taking Facebook to new heights, if you will, posting longer and better researched thought pieces (extensive footnotes and all!) than would be permitted in the usual newspaper op-ed format. She was masterful by first posting one with the evocative ‘death panel’ term, and once everyone from Obama on down had felt compelled to respond she followed up with a more detailed piece that took his healthcare advisor Zeke Emanuel to task as well.
It really was masterful, and your point is entirely on point!
Me too I saw the ping but it seemed there were not many other posts but once on the thread a pile suddenly appeared.
A lot of people don't understand this about Medicare and are caught like we were when this happened. I often bring it up in conversations about health care because I don't want others to be caught unsuspecting like we were. We had 12 hours to get a hospital bed and a nursing service (which WE had to pay for). My sisters and I took turns staying with my parents at night because it saved money on nurses. ALl of us were working at the time so we had to have the day nurses (who were not that good) and my mother was in a wheelchair so she could do nothing.
And if all of us had lived out of town and my mother had been in a nursing home they would have STILL released him. They would have sent him to a private nursing home which Medicare does not pay for and would have exhausted all of his money and then put him on Medicaid, and then he would have been transferred to a low-rent nursing facility.
Younger people always think that Medicare is just like private insurance, but it is not.
The servers have been flakely lately. We’ve been hit by numerous denial-of-service attacks, or at least attempts to deny our service.
The whole interwebs have been experiencing a number of attacks these past couple of months. Last month, Twitter and Facebook were taken down for a few momments, with Google also getting hit. The attacks have mostly come from two places, the Peoples Republic of China People’s Liberation Army, and North Korea.
Right now, if you were doing packet analysis, you’d see the ‘Net is becoming full of rogue ICMPs looking for a reply.
Thanks maica, thats why they are written.
Pray for America and Gov Palin
No, but I think it stopped them from PASSING it.
When he finishes Basic, he will go into medic training, then to college to become a doctor - unless the o changes his plan. His contract covers all of this, but a contract means nothing to the libs.
Its also amazing that none of their mistakes are ever their fault.
Pray for America
Nexus between "duty to die" and significantly increasing the death tax????
Thanks, I was concerned it might be on my end.
I’m a little relieved, but still concerned now
about the possible cause... dang
remember McCain did not want to use “Joe the Plumber” Palin was the one who pushed it.
DC is way out of touch.
DC politicians are not on the front line of the real world. They are even more removed from reality than an ivory tower professor.
Tinfoil hat plus tinfoil gown firmly in place.
I can’t take credit for the “Making Grandma Shovel Ready” part - it came from RedEye last week, I think from Andy Levy.
Good morning snugs! NICE was in the news last week over a kidney cancer treatment.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4474425.ece
Conrad: Actually the president has no plan.
Shelby: I think Congress is beginning to rethink what they are gong to do.
Coming up: Reports on Nazis and UnAmericans at town hall meetings.
snugs, there is a very thorough discussion of the proposed changes in a lib magazine, The Atlantic. The author wrote that the true customer of today’s hospitals is not the patient but Medicare and Medicaid, which are paying almost 50% of all the bills. I had not seen that observation before, but it explains very well the relationship between hospital administration, patient, and third-party payer.
The author did a serious study of today’s hospital systems after his father died from a hospital-acquired infection and spent 5 weeks in an ICU.
So already government bureaucracies control most of what hospitals are allowed to do.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care
My daughter hates ‘texting’, but her children live by it. I had rather pick up the phone and call the person.
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