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Canada finds possible US Air Force plane lost in 1942
AFP ^ | Aug. 6, 2009

Posted on 08/16/2009 5:53:44 AM PDT by nuconvert

OTTAWA (AFP) – Canadian underwater archeologists accidentally discovered what they believe to be the wreck of a US Air Force airplane that sank in the Saint Lawrence seaway in 1942, the Parks Canada divers said Thursday.

The divers said in a statement that they were carrying out routine work in an adjacent area when they came across the wreck. It must still be confirmed that it is indeed the lost plane.

"This is a very significant discovery," Quebec region Minister Christian Paradis said. "This plane is a testament to the collaboration between Canada and the US during the Second World War."

The amphibious aircraft foundered in rough weather on November 2, 1942, in the waters surrounding what is now the Mingan Archipelago National Park Reserve in the eastern Gulf of Saint Lawrence.

The plane was based at Presqu'Ile, Maine, in the United States, and serviced an airfield in the village of Longue-Pointe-de-Mingan, Quebec, about 1,000 kilometers (641 miles) northeast of Montreal.

Nine persons were on board when the aircraft went down. Four of the crew escaped the flooding plane and were rescued by local fishermen rowing out from shore in open boats in rough seas.

The five others perished, trapped inside.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: canada; godsgravesglyphs; lostplane; mia; pby5a; pbycatalina; planecrash; usaac; usaf

1 posted on 08/16/2009 5:54:22 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: fanfan

for your list


2 posted on 08/16/2009 5:59:44 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nuconvert

USAF was formed as a separate branch of the military on 18 September 1947.


3 posted on 08/16/2009 6:09:04 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: nuconvert

Presqu’lle? I’ve never seen it spelled that way....

In Maine, it’s known as Presque Isle, a city in Aroostook, County, at the top of the state. Population: just under 10,000.


4 posted on 08/16/2009 6:14:07 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The AFL-CIO.....a domestic terrorist organization doing Obama's dirty work for him.)
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To: george76

Good point....it was the U.S. Army Air Corps back in 1942.


5 posted on 08/16/2009 6:15:45 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The AFL-CIO.....a domestic terrorist organization doing Obama's dirty work for him.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

The source is AFP - Agence France-Presse


6 posted on 08/16/2009 6:17:09 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Army Air Corps

pong


7 posted on 08/16/2009 6:17:45 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

I didn’t see any mention of what kind of plane this may be, probably a bomber or recon type.
Since there were survivors it might still be intact.


8 posted on 08/16/2009 6:19:55 AM PDT by muddler
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Plane found by Canadian divers believed to be Maine-based Catalina lost in 1942

According to the War Department, which later became the U.S. Department of Defense, the plane had completed the first leg of a routine flight and was taking off for the return trip to base when it capsized in rough weather in the eastern Gulf of Saint Lawrence on Nov. 2, 1942.

Surviving were: retired Capt. John B. Holmberg, Chicago; Tech. Sgt. George C. Peterson, Welch, La.; Cpl. Robert L. Ashley, Riverside, Calif.; and Pvt. James E. Click, Lexington, Ky.

Missing were: Lt. Col. Harry J. Zimmerman, Bayside, Long Island, N.Y.; Capt. Carney Lee Dowlen, Dallas; Sgt. Charles O. Richardson, Charlevoix, Mich.; Pvt. Erwin G. Austin, Monroe, Maine; and Pvt. Peter J. Cuzins, Cincinnati.

9 posted on 08/16/2009 6:21:26 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Thanks


10 posted on 08/16/2009 6:26:29 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: muddler

PBY-5A Catalina


11 posted on 08/16/2009 6:27:28 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

It was the US Army Air Corps until June 1941 when it became the US Army Air Forces.


12 posted on 08/16/2009 6:30:54 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Interesting. I never knew that the Army Air Corps owned/operated PBY-5A aircraft. I always considered that an exclusive Navy aircraft.


13 posted on 08/16/2009 6:37:51 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Proud FR Mobster)
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Thanks for the ping, 1rudeboy.


14 posted on 08/16/2009 6:38:34 AM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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15 posted on 08/16/2009 6:55:37 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Repeal The 17th
That must have been one noisy plane to ride.
16 posted on 08/16/2009 7:02:47 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: george76

Bump.


17 posted on 08/16/2009 7:05:08 AM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: TADSLOS

US Navy-operated PBYs were designated OA-10s in AAF service. But is it certain this aircraft was a Catalina?


18 posted on 08/16/2009 7:11:16 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: TADSLOS
Here is one at the Air Force Museum


19 posted on 08/16/2009 7:39:00 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
"Presqu’lle? I’ve never seen it spelled that way...."

French-Canadian topic written by a French wire service. They can't help themselves.

20 posted on 08/16/2009 8:13:53 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

They mention it later in the article and spell it right the second time. Typo, maybe?


21 posted on 08/16/2009 8:59:19 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Hmmm...wonder what happened on landing that sank a PBY.


22 posted on 08/16/2009 9:02:11 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: TADSLOS

The Army had a few twin engine Grummans in service in the 60’s - 70’s, the HU-16 Albatross. BTW, In the late 60’s and early 70’s the Army had more pilots than the Air Force and Navy combined.


23 posted on 08/16/2009 10:40:47 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (tagline closed for renovation)
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To: TADSLOS

As a side note - a good book on PBYs

Those Navy Guys and Their PBY’s: The Aleutian Solution

a page turner if you are a WWII buff.


24 posted on 08/16/2009 12:18:19 PM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: muddler

It supposedly had nine people on board, this means it was a multi-engined craft, quite possibly a DC3(the Air Corps and the Marines used different designations for the DC3, but still that’s what it was!). OTH, 9 people was originally the number of crew members on board the B17, it was later changed to 10. So actually it could be just about any multi-engined Airplane of that day. Too bad they didn’t have brains enough to mention the model in the article. Typical left wing rag.


25 posted on 08/16/2009 12:50:47 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Ok, correction to my last post, I see some enterprising FReeper has ascertained it was a Catalina, one of the main stays of WWII, they were in short supply and highly valued.


26 posted on 08/16/2009 12:52:51 PM PDT by calex59
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To: texas booster

Most likely very noisy, cruising speed was 90 MPH. They even had a squadron of them in use in the South Pacific called the Black Cat Squadron, they operated only at night and were used as ground attack craft.


27 posted on 08/16/2009 12:54:53 PM PDT by calex59
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To: TADSLOS

I thought the same.


28 posted on 08/16/2009 1:42:57 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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