Posted on 08/16/2009 9:16:51 AM PDT by RobinMasters
WASHINGTON – Apparently ready to abandon the idea, President Barack Obama's health secretary said Sunday a government alternative to private health insurance is "not the essential element" of the administration's health care overhaul.
The White House indicated it could jettison the contentious public option and settle on insurance cooperatives as an acceptable alternative, a move embraced by some Republicans lawmakers who have strongly opposed the administration's approach so far.
Officials from both political parties reached across the aisle in an effort to find compromises on proposals they left behind when they returned to their districts for an August recess. Obama has been pressing for the government to run a health insurance organization to help cover the nation's almost 50 million uninsured.
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said the White House would be open to co-ops instead of a government-run public option, a sign Democrats want a compromise so they can declare a victory on the must-win showdown.
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And what then? I’ll answer that question. Once co-ops are formed, the government will simply take them over just as they did two auto manufacturers and a host of financial institutions.
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Yep!
In other news, 0bambi claims that
0bambi care will be No 1 in the world..
Yeah:
No 1 employer world wide: 0bambi care bureaucrats,
No 2: Chinese army
No 3: Indian railways,
No 4. British National Health Scheme....(and look how good that is)
>>> It is Unconstitutional for the Federal Government to have any roll or say in the delivery of medical services in this country. <<<<
Of course you’re right.
I sort of meant “start all over again” from your statement above.
I don’t know what it’s going to take to stop America’s slow roll into Socialism.
Whatever “compromise” gets passed will still be largely unread by voting members of Congress, and it will still lay the groundwork for government control.
It will be a titantic legal struggle when the FCC does whatever it does to stop conservative radio...One more lefty appointee to the SCOTUS could do it.
They will go after Fox through Murdoch...any single individual can be attacked in a number of ways...Watergate style secret police...some setup where he can be blackmailed...or more likely...the IRS.
Wait and see.
Put another stake through its heart. Cyanide. .45 headshots. Strangulation.
There is no amount of death this Zombie can’t overcome....continue to fire for effect!
Just wait. The democrat leadership will get together and find another way to attack insurance companies. Look for the Cato article here about the so-called “Co-op” alternative (www.cato.org).
Perhaps Obama himself, is the catalyst to inspire its demise.
America is awake and watching.
This is starting out just like the creation of the Housing Bubble.
The federal government required lenders to lend to those who could not afford homes, which forced the private sector to get creative by pushing ARMs in order to still turn a profit. (not saying they were right in doing so)
Everyone jumped on this bandwagon, and when it came crashing down, it came down HARD.
Now what happens when the federal govt requires private insurers to offer federally-mandated rates to those who traditionally could not afford the best coverage? Well, the insurance companies are going to get creative and come up with something, everyone will think it's so great, and a few years after that it will all come crashing down.
Then the government will declare the big insurers insolvent, and nationalize them.
Oh yeah, and the Republicans will be blamed.
Tort reform. The break year for draconian Medicare cuts for MD specialist reimbursement was 1990/91..in one specialty the cuts amounted to over 50%. If Medicare returned to the reimbursement scale of 1990 for paying surgeons, for example, the MD financial premium MALPRACTICE CRISIS would disappear as they would have more than enough money for malpractice premiums that was deleted in draconian fashion from 1991 to the present.
Most MDs in private practice have actually, if not conceptually, over 50% of their practice in Medicare patients....pay them at 1990 Medicare rates of reimbursement and the financial medical malpractice insurance premium problem disappears. THe cuts of 1991 remain to this day with little variance.
Restore the Medicare payment scales of 1990 and MDs will not run from a high percentage of Medicare patients in their practices, which began as a phenomenon in 1991.
The cuts of 1991 were hidden in the 1987 Reagan era Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, and were unannounced and applied beginning in 1991. Physicians were not prepared for the cuts and took them by surprise.
I rarely go to DU but followed your link today. I must say it was refreshing to see that the libs are apparently as frustrated and fed up with their Messiah as we are. So many vowing not to work for his re-election or vote for him. Gotta love it!
Thank you. Many keep discussing the details of the health care provisions and ignore the approach to our precious jewel--our liberty. That is the issue.
They’re just floating this to see the public’s response.
Even with all the citizen outrage spawned by the national health insurance bill, I don’t think The Marxist Onada and his gang of angry commies are ready to accept reality. That is, the public’s rejection of Onadacare.
I agree that changes need to made to how we dispense and pay for health care. But, simple old retired soldier that I am, I don’t think there is anything especially complex about doing it.
Here are my thoughts:
1. Create affordable private sector catastrophic health insurance for everyone that wants it.
2. Return to “pay as you go” for sniffles, cuts and other minor mishaps.
3. Health insurance should follow the insured wherever he/she goes.
4. Health care infrastructure (hospitals, clinics, labs etc) should be “not for profit”.
5. Doctors should not be permitted to have a monetary interest in hospitals and labs.
6. Health care providers (doctors, nurses, techs) should be free to set their on rates.
7. Tort reform is essential if health care costs are to be contained. I’m not usually a proponent of one size fits all solutions. But there needs to be a clear natiional definition of what constitutes malpractice. All malpractice suits should be subject to review by a panal of doctors and lawyers before being heard in court to weed out the frivolous suits. Those bringing malpractice suits to court should pay the accussed’s costs if they lose.
8. Patient care should be left entirely in the hands of medical care providers. Companies in the health insurance business should not be allowed to interfere in patient care. However, I think insurance companies should be permitted to maintain a file on all health care providers of their insured. This way a third party would be monitoring performance of the doctors, hospitals, clinics and pharmacies. The HMO/PPO “delay and deny cycle” needs to be eliminated.
9. For those who’re unable to afford any health care insurance, local communities should establish a fund (Community Chest, if you will) to help these people out until they are able to afford health insurance. In other words, communities should take care of their own. Having to look their tax-paying neighbor in the eye each time they put their hand out will tend to discourage abuses of the public trust.
I was just over at DU
Sheer delight to read them all in a tizzy.
That being said, I do not want to let up on Congress or this Administration. The people are finally paying attention, when try try to slip something else in scream your head off.
Symbolic only. They’ll try again. They won’t stop. They’ll plan the destruction of the economy and once unemployment is at 30% like the Great Depression more and more people will look to the government for their health care and their EVERYTHING.
Is this an unusually large amount of “tizzy-ness”? The few times I have looked there in the past they are usually venting their spleen at conservatives. I’m surprised by all the criticism of Obama and the ineffectiveness of the Democratic majority.
It’s like many of them have already given up on getting their socialist utopia.
This won’t assuage those of us who are in the 41% Strongly Disapprove. But it might move some liberals over to that column, giving Barry O a 50% Strongly Disapprove number.
At the rate they are going they realize they woke a “sleeping giant” by making more of us aware of the fact that US politicians have been spending us down the road to serfdom. The redistribution STRATEGY must be more about stealthcare like everything else the government has done since FDR.
Most likely they’ll try to pass their sh*t in the house and do a more tempered thing in the Senate...when it goes to conference, they’ll switch it back to the house bill....
So YES, DON’T BELIEVE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!
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