Posted on 08/17/2009 9:07:21 PM PDT by Abakumov
[Video transcript]
MASSA: I will vote for the single payer bill.
PARTICIPANT: Even if it meant you were being voted out of office?
MASSA: I will vote adamantly against the interests of my district if I actually think what I am doing is going to be helpful.
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does that make him in voilation of his oath of office and is there any provision for that.
Besides he said "interests" instead of "desires" and that probably much about this elitist pig.
I think he meant he would go against public opinion if he held what he was doing to be right. But when he said he voted against the INTERESTS of his districk well... that was ignorant. He needs to resign. He was only SENT there to represent the INTERESTS of his districk. If he’s not going to do that, there is no reason for him.
Kick the scoundrels out!
You and I both agree. We also would probably agree that for of the dems and RINOs pushing this bill their interest is mercenary—not “caring”.
However, I would posit that there at least a few who actually believe Onadacare is good for America. These are the people I’m talking about.
So, you are saying that a constituency that decides you should be lynched—or anyone for that matter—should be supported by their elected officials?
You obviously haven’t thought this through.
So you think an elected official should support his constituent’s intent to lynch you—or anyone?
You obviously have’t thought this through.
I chose extreme examples to make a point: To say there would never be an instance where an elected representative could not be conflicted by his or her own definition of morality or ethicallity—vs his constituents—is naieve.
If you are correct, the civil rights movement would have been stillborn. Some democrat and a potload of pubbie office holders voted for the end of segregation in the face of what their constituents wanted.
If you are correct, many Congresscritters voted for women’s suffrage despite what a majority of their contsituents wanted.
That said, I am most vigorously opposed to Obamacare. But not because of a moral or ethical issue. I oppose it because I believe it is born of a political system that has failed where ever it’s been tried. And, I believe the primary reason dems and RINOs are pushing Onadacare has more to do with power than it does my health. I also believe the program will be mismanaged just like every other government program that has been implemented.
The government, afterall, is a far larger generator of fraud, waste and abuse than the private sector.
He was elected to represent his constituents, instead he thinks he is better qualified to determine what is “good for them”, whether they want it or not.
Cammies with bright reflective patches. Doof!
This is a schmuck, times 1000!
How can anyone defend this?
Note to the local GOP: there are plenty of young, articulate soldiers in the area. Find one and run him against the asswab. He seems to also want to champion the cause of military sodomites everywhere.
What’s with the silly uniform? I’ve never seen Jack Jacobs or Duncan Hunter wearing anything like that.
Never say never. When the representative cannot agree with his constituents, it has always been on the side of a moral and ethical issue, in which the representative has the job of caller the constituentcy to higher ground. The representative can vote anyway he desires, and the consequences are a strong possiblitity of not being re-elected.
The civil rights movement existed independently of any action in Washington, and by 1964 it was clear a majority of the country favored civil rights protections. The only solid opposition was in the solid South—The DEMOCRAT solid south, which pretty much voted en bloc against the bill.
As for women’s suffrage—there was not a vote per se, other than for a constitutional amendment, which then had to be ratified by 2/3rds of the states. For it to pass, obviously a lot of state representatives, who are even closer to, and more accountable to, the people than federal representatives had to be in favor of suffrage.
You are correct that Obama care is born of a political system that is a universal failure—precisely a failure becaue it is immoral and unethical to take one person’s labor and redistribute without permmission to someone else.
Steny Hoyer once described Massa as very hard working and Pelosi’s right hand man!!!
Don't have a lot of faith in common decency?
I respect your argument moral and ethical argument. However, the brain dead American population will never sit still long enough to process it.
However, occasionally the light goes on when it comes to money being taken of their pockets.
Are you telling me that Johnson’s 1965(?) Civil Rights Bill was not voted on by Congress?
And are you telling me that no elected officials voted on the suffrage amendment?
Re: your questions in post 99:
1. No, I am saying that when the Civil Rights Bill was voted on, the Democrat South was one area where it did not enjoy approval. Even the yes votes were not so much a matter of conscience as an acknowledgement of an idea whose time as come.
2. No, elected official had to vote on suffrage, but a vote in Congress was not sufficient for its passage. The constitution required an amendment, so the vote was pushed down to the level of state representatives, not Federal ones. At the state level, the representatives are closer to the people. Plus 2/3rds of the legislatures had to vote in the affirmative. Thus, if there was widespread opposition, it could not have survived such a process.
As for the American public, you could be right. But the uprising at these town halls show that there still exists many people who can still think for themselves and who WILL act in their own best interests. And that means there is still hope for the Republic.
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