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Why the Birth Certificate Issue is Important (well done)
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 8/18/09 | Nathan Alexander

Posted on 08/18/2009 12:57:17 PM PDT by pissant

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To: frogjerk

Never fall for the sophistry that this is just some technicality about a birth certificate. This born-and-bred Marxist has concealed not just his birth records, but his academic records and everything else significant about his background. All we know about his past is what he chose to hype in his heavily-fictionalized and glamorized “autobiographies.”


21 posted on 08/18/2009 1:51:55 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: American Quilter
Regarding Post #6....you and me both.

I don't care so much about convoluted conspiracies.

Frankly, regardless of which way this issue goes, my opinion of BO won't change.

Just show me the doc. It's easy.

22 posted on 08/18/2009 1:53:25 PM PDT by wbill
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To: American Quilter
That's the
Certifi CATION of Live Birth

that you have seen on the internet. Team Obama loves us to make that slip, as I have done on my posts. It is not a Birth Certifi CATE.

The important difference: the Certifi CATION does not establish citizenship, or place of birth.

It isn't exactly our fault, as Team Obama has spent millions conflating the two different documents, claiming that it is a BC, or at any rate "just as good." It ain't.

23 posted on 08/18/2009 2:04:43 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: givemELL
Political coup unprecedented in world history.

Totally agree. It's why everything Obama does seems like something out of a bad novel. He's not supposed to be there, and yet he is.

I would just love for Bibi Netanyahu to call him on his eligibility. That would start the fireworks seen 'round the world.

And 50 million t-shirts with Bibi's face printed on them would be on the streets of America the next day.

24 posted on 08/18/2009 2:11:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: pissant
Perjury. Keep that word in mind.

Ditto for Scooter Libby. "The system" depends on honesty.

25 posted on 08/18/2009 2:14:01 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: NoLibZone
-- The founders were birthers. --

I like that observation.

I think a dual citizen does not meet the qualifications ... or at least according to the definition of "natural born citizen" the founders had in mind. Undivided allegiance, from birth (and perhaps, from adoption).

26 posted on 08/18/2009 2:17:27 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: pissant
both parties are salivating over the prospective votes of the 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants already here

And that's what it's all about, folks! Why has nobody sued over this issue? You shouldn't be able to make 20 million illegal aliens *legal*, just because you want their votes. That should be illegal. If the Republicans think THEY are the ones who are going to get these votes, they are sadly mistaken.

27 posted on 08/18/2009 2:31:44 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: pissant
Good article. It's hard to know what the actual obamafacts are, but it's easy to draw conclusions from appearances.

He was elected by saying the right things, things like a promise to have the most transparent administration ever. It's hard to know which is funnier: that he said that with a straight face or that people actually believed him.

The truth is, he has been anything but transparent, especially about who and what he is or where he came from. Apparently, he has two ghost written "auto"biographies telling a pretty tale that helped people feel comfortable electing him and, ironically enough, made him enough money to pay to keep his real past a secret.

That a narcissist like obama spends any money or time hiding key documents about his past tells me his real, actual truth is not what the public thinks it is from reading his drama-documentary obamabiographies. Here is where appearances tell me obama is lying.

We need to know the facts. We need the truth to set either obama or the country free.

28 posted on 08/18/2009 2:33:20 PM PDT by GBA
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To: pissant
A falsified COLB is enough for me.

They say it's genuine.

Now we’ll just have to get this into court.

Not having a whole lot of luck with that, are you?

It is demonstrably obvious that no state or federal authority has demanded proof of NBC status as well.

There in lies the rub. No state or federal authority is charged with checking the birth certificates of the candidates. Hopefully that will change in time for the next election. All it will take is one state.

Of course, the Arpuzzo/Donofrio argument is also trying to get a hearing.

Unsuccessfully, it appears.

29 posted on 08/18/2009 2:34:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: pissant

BTTT


30 posted on 08/18/2009 2:35:22 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: American Quilter
Yes, I agree both with your surprise at the conservative columnists and hosts and about seeing the BC.

Humans are hardwired for solving problems and mysteries, no matter how we might be ridiculed for doing so. That's why I'm mostly surprised by the media completely ignoring the story. Odd that few if any have one iota of curiosity. No matter, this won't go away until the mystery is solved.

31 posted on 08/18/2009 2:40:10 PM PDT by GBA
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To: American Quilter

Rinos have liberal and illegals in their portfolio, and the conservative voice has to pay to keep their morale up.

It’s typical Pontius Pilates or Caiaphas “logic”.


32 posted on 08/18/2009 2:42:05 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Windflier

Part of it IS out of a BAD novel...read Soros’ book.


33 posted on 08/18/2009 3:04:51 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: bareford101
The entire dem- rat party is a collection of people guilty of treason.

and they know it

34 posted on 08/18/2009 3:12:16 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The US Military would be the final decider.

Under what clause of the Constitution?

One could say under the authority of Article VI Clause 3:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution;

The argument is that if the Executive officer did not meet the qualifications, then voting him into office does not alone satisfy the qualifications -- he still fails to meet the qualifications and is not Constitutionally the President. They would be saying that the qualification to be president is that 1) he meets the natural-born qualification, AND 2) he meets the electoral qualification. Winning the vote is not superior to meeting the natural-born qualification, therefore he is still unqualified if not proven to meet BOTH requirements.

Therefore, the military, by oath to defend the Constitution in Article VI, would have the authority to remove the man from office.

-PJ

35 posted on 08/18/2009 3:24:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: givemELL
Part of it IS out of a BAD novel...read Soros’ book.

No thanks. I'm already convinced that the man is a minion of the devil himself.

36 posted on 08/18/2009 3:32:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: sourcery; All

“Here’s the key point: The US military could decide at any moment that Obama is Constitutionally not the POTUS (and therefore not the CIC)—with or without any decision by the SCOTUS. If they reach that conclusion, and decide to act on it, who would have the power to oppose them? Reminder: I’m not advocating any such thing, merely pointing out a fact.”

I’m extremely conservative, and a reservist. I don’t know of anyone active or reserve that would attempt to remove a sitting POTUS by force of arms - it is unthinkable. The moment the military does that, we no longer have a country. Any removal of a POTUS, must be done by constitutionally and follow the rule of law. Using military force is NOT an option in my thinking and I would never participate in such an action and would help put down those who would.

BTW - I don’t think President Obama is NOT a “natural born” citizen as required by the U.S. Constitution. However, as a member of the Armed Forces, I will express my opinions via the ballot, privateley contacting members of congress, etc. Also, although I would not do it, I think Major Cook is using a lawful means to challenge POTUS eligibility. However, a military coup will never be acceptable...ever. So, don’t think it is a “fact”, because IT ISN’T.


37 posted on 08/18/2009 3:39:29 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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Just produce the d*mn birth certificate, Obongo.

_____________________

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Canada Free Press
JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials!

Today’s radio interview in Israel with Dr. Orly.
Discusses bc, Obama not elgible due to being British citizen, death threats, Obots tampering with her car:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/1302

Dr. Orly Taitz storms Israel making a clear case for Obama (TV)
inelgibility- Obama is a British citizen.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Dr. Orly’s official website:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
Or Dr. Orly’s blog:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

_____________________________


38 posted on 08/18/2009 3:42:58 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Sola Veritas; All

“BTW - I don’t think President Obama is NOT a “natural born” citizen as required by the U.S. Constitution.”

Sorry for the poor grammer. What I meant to say is that I also question President Obama’s eligibility to be POTUS because I don’t think he is a “natural born” citizen as required by the constitution.

That being said, I, as someone with military status, would have no part of a military attempt to end an administration. To do so would be unconstitutional and the very thing the Founding Fathers feared of a standing army. It would be wrong....it ain’t gonna happen on my watch.


39 posted on 08/18/2009 3:44:16 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Political Junkie Too; All

“Therefore, the military, by oath to defend the Constitution in Article VI, would have the authority to remove the man from office.”

Exactly correct. I would be breaking my oath to defend the constitution IF I did an unconstitutional act. A coup is unconstitutional.


40 posted on 08/18/2009 3:46:32 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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