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Obama makes moral case for health reform
AFP ^ | 8-19-08 | Stephen Collinson

Posted on 08/19/2009 4:33:55 PM PDT by SJackson

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama Wednesday said America, as the world's richest nation, had a moral duty to offer health care to everyone, in a fresh bid to bolster support for his top domestic priority.

Obama addressed thousands of people in a call with left-leaning religious faith leaders, as the White House tried to still disquiet among liberals, and fierce opposition among Republicans, to his under-fire health care plan.

"The one thing you all share, is a moral conviction, you know, that this debate over health care goes to the heart of who we are as a people," said Obama.

"I believe that nobody in America should be denied basic health care because he or she lacks health insurance," Obama said, after calling into a webcast including clergy and believers of Evangelical, Protestant, Catholic and Jewish orders.

"No one in America should be pushed to the edge of financial ruin because an insurance company denies them coverage," Obama said.

Obama hit out at what he branded "fabrications" whipped up by opponents of his policy, including claims that it would expand abortions, give health care to illegal immigrants and ration end-of-life care.

"These are all fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation.

"That is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother's keeper and I am my sister's keeper," Obama said, using a phrase drawn from the Bible.

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Yeah, I've heard about your religion Mr. One. You can stuff the moral preaching.

THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System, written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee, chaired by the late Vallmer Jordan in 1981.

Dr. Manford Byrd, our brother in Christ, withstood the ravage of being denied his earned ascension to the number one position in the Chicago School System. His dedication to the pursuit of excellence, despite systematic denials, has inspired the congregation of Trinity United Church of Christ. Prayerfully, we have called upon the wisdom of all past generations of suffering Blacks for guidance in fashioning an instrument of Black self-determination, the Black Value System.

Beginning in 1982, an annual Black Value System - Educational Scholarship in the name of Dr. Byrd was instituted. The first recipient of the Dr. Manford Byrd Award, which is given annually to the man or woman who best exemplifies the Black Value System, was our brother, Dr. Manford Byrd.

These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They consist of the following concepts:

  1. Commitment to God. "The God of our weary years" will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism and become Black Christian Activists, soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind. Matthew 22:37 - Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.



  2. Commitment to the Black Community. The highest level of achievement for any Black person must be a contribution of strength and continuity of the Black Community. I John 4:20 - If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother [or his sister], he is a liar; for he that loveth not his brother or sister whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?



  3. Commitment to the Black Family. The Black family circle must generate strength, stability and love, despite the uncertainty of externals, because these characteristics are required if the developing person is to withstand warping by our racist competitive society. Those Blacks who are blessed with membership in a strong family unit must reach out and expand that blessing to the less fortunate. Deuteronomy 6:6-8 - And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.



  4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education. We must forswear anti-intellectualism. Continued survival demands that each Black person be developed to the utmost of his/her mental potential despite the inadequacies of the formal education process. “Real education” fosters understanding of ourselves as well as every aspect of our environment. Also, it develops within us the ability to fashion concepts and tools for better utilization of our resources, and more effective solutions to our problems. Since the majority of Blacks have been denied such learning, Black Education must include elements that produce high school graduates with marketable skills, a trade or qualifications for apprenticeships, or proper preparation for college. Basic education for all Blacks should include Mathematics, Science, Logic, General Semantics, Participative Politics, Economics and Finance, and the Care and Nurture of Black minds. Matthew 22:37 - Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul and with all thy mind.



  5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence. To the extent that we individually reach for, even strain for excellence, we increase, geometrically, the value and resourcefulness of the Black Community. We must recognize the relativity of one’s best; this year’s best can be bettered next year. Such is the language of growth and development. We must seek to excel in every endeavor. Ecclesiastes 9:10 - Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do [it] with thy might; for [there is] no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.



  6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic. "It is becoming harder to find qualified people to work in Chicago." Whether this is true or not, it represents one of the many reasons given by businesses and industries for deserting the Chicago area. We must realize that a location with good facilities, adequate transportation and a reputation for producing skilled workers will attract industry. We are in competition with other cities, states and nations for jobs. High productivity must be a goal of the Black workforce. II Thessalonians 3:7-12 - For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labor and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.



  7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect. To accomplish anything worthwhile requires self-discipline. We must be a community of self-disciplined persons if we are to actualize and utilize our own human resources, instead of perpetually submitting to exploitation by others. Self-discipline, coupled with a respect for self, will enable each of us to be an instrument of Black Progress and a model for Black Youth. I Peter 1:4-7 - To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ.



  8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness." Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must be able to identify the "talented tenth" of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor's control. Proverbs 3:13-14 - Happy are those who find wisdom and those who gain understanding, for her income is better than silver and her revenue better than gold.

    Those so identified are separated from the rest of the people by:
    • Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.
    • Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.
    • Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of "we" and "they" instead of "us."
    • So, while it is permissible to chase "middleclassness" with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method - the psychological entrapment of Black "middleclassness." If we avoid this snare, we will also diminish our "voluntary" contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, Black people no longer will be deprived of their birthright: the leadership, resourcefulness and example of their own talented persons.



  9. Pledge to Make the Fruits of All Developing and Acquired Skills Available to the Black Community.



  10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions.



  11. Pledge Allegiance to All Black Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the Black Value System.



  12. Personal Commitment to Embracement of the Black Value System. To measure the worth and validity of all activity in terms of positive contributions to the general welfare of the Black Community and the Advancement of Black People towards freedom.


1 posted on 08/19/2009 4:33:55 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Abortion and Euthanasia is now a moral obligation. Obama, you are from the Devil.
2 posted on 08/19/2009 4:36:24 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: SJackson
Don't preach to me about who we are as people. You have no moral standing in my mind, barry
3 posted on 08/19/2009 4:37:54 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: SJackson

You have no more a moral obligation to provide health care to others than you have to provide them anything else. You have no moral obligation to give a robber the money in your wallet. You have no moral obligation to provide valuable items to someone who burgles your house. You have no moral obligation to provide an income to the Ponzi-scheme operators of the world, or the “419” Nigerian scammers. You are not anyone’s slave, and cannot morally be forced to work for the benefit of those who’d rather live off the money you pay in taxes. Morally, it’s just theft.


4 posted on 08/19/2009 4:39:07 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: SJackson
Not buying it Berry.


5 posted on 08/19/2009 4:39:08 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: SJackson
"That is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother's keeper and I am my sister's keeper," Obama said, using a phrase drawn from the Bible.

The Devil quotes scripture, again.

6 posted on 08/19/2009 4:39:31 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: SJackson

Oh great! The most immoral POTUS ever has the gall to sermonize us on what is right.

Stick to what you do best, i.e. pathological lying, you damn demon from hell!


7 posted on 08/19/2009 4:39:47 PM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: SJackson
Hussein preaches to us about being moral, while his brother lives in a shack.
Cram it, Hussein.

8 posted on 08/19/2009 4:39:57 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: frogjerk

Yes. The millions of dead and dying people in the street whom don’t have insurance is a blight on the moral standing of this country.

Sarcasm.


9 posted on 08/19/2009 4:40:02 PM PDT by wolf24 (HOLD FAST)
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To: SJackson

he who would let babies die preaching about morals. I wish I could spit in his face.


10 posted on 08/19/2009 4:41:08 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: sourcery
You have no moral obligation to give a robber the money in your wallet.

True, but the biggest robbers are in Washington D.C. and they simply legislate our money out of our wallets with each new entitlement they pass.

Theft by any other name is still THEFT.

11 posted on 08/19/2009 4:41:41 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: wolf24

I hope I don’t run into those millions of dead and dying on my drive home from work.


12 posted on 08/19/2009 4:41:54 PM PDT by GauchoUSA
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To: sourcery

Okay, I am perplexed.

With global warming, Al Gore declared it was a “moral issue”.

With health care, Obama calls it a moral issue.

But on issues such as abortion or same-sex marriage, the liberals lecture us that “you can’t legislate morality”, or to “don’t impose your morals on everyone else”.

So, my main conclusion is that the liberals will use morality and religious faith guidelines IF they can be used in support of a liberal agenda. But, if anyone talks about morality in relation to traditional values or marriage or abortion, the liberals tells us that morality has no place in politics.

I will never understand the liberal mind.


13 posted on 08/19/2009 4:44:19 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: frogjerk

How should God approve that we take money from Peter, and give this robbery to Paul, in the name of Christ?


14 posted on 08/19/2009 4:44:37 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Palin / Palin 2012 (either order))
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To: SJackson
Government is not “Moral”
Corporations are not “Moral”

Individuals engage in Moral acts
There can be no compulsion in moral acts
They are freely entered into
with personal consequences

Governments act by forced taking
Taxation is taking under compulsion
threat of imprisonment / loss of property

The best government can achieve is Prudence

15 posted on 08/19/2009 4:46:19 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: SJackson
"I believe that nobody in America should be denied basic health care because he or she lacks health insurance," Obama said, after calling into a webcast including clergy and believers of Evangelical, Protestant, Catholic and Jewish orders.

Obama is a liar. Every state in the Union requires by law that no patient can be turned away for treatment from any Hospital base on their non-ability to pay.

16 posted on 08/19/2009 4:47:27 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: SJackson
Is this not above your pay grade, Mr. Obama?
17 posted on 08/19/2009 4:47:31 PM PDT by jennyjenny ( "The Harpoon")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I agree completely. Great reply!


18 posted on 08/19/2009 4:48:27 PM PDT by GauchoUSA
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To: sourcery

Very well said!


19 posted on 08/19/2009 4:50:20 PM PDT by balls
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To: paul51
Right; it's all about those who LIVE off the earnings of others, then they play the "charity" card. They are NOT OWED A LIVING, NOR ARE THEY ENTITLED TO THE FRUITS OF OTHERS' LABOR!

Tell them to get off their lazy asses and be responsible for THEMSELVES (and, while they're at it, how about the FATHERS of all the tramps, aka, "single moms", fessing up and paying for their kids?)

20 posted on 08/19/2009 4:50:26 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gots to buy no gas...Obama gonna take care o' me!")
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To: SJackson
the world's richest nation, had a moral duty to offer health care to everyone,

This is virtually impossible. It's being tried in the UK and Canada. Look at what's happened there. Not everyone gets health care when they need it.

21 posted on 08/19/2009 4:54:16 PM PDT by Need4Truth (Downsizing government is more than just reducing taxes.)
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To: SJackson
Obama also accused critics of "bearing false witness" about the his proposals, describing claims of federally created "death panels" as an "extraordinary lie."

My advice is to not try and quote the bible when you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

22 posted on 08/19/2009 4:55:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: traditional1

I have to be honest and stop you right there. I know you will agree that not ‘all’ single moms are tramps or live off the government. You probably did not mean it that way.

Single moms who work twice as hard and do everything they can for their children are a class all of their own, I am sure no one will deny that. My mother was a single mom who brought my sister and I to this country “LEGALLY” all by herself, I was 10 and my sister was 12 when she brought us here living on her own, and working harder with her degree than any other person I am sure to ever meet. It is people like my hard working mom and every other mom and dad out there who do everything legally, by the book and with all the effort they can muster who deserve better than the crap Obambi is shoveling our way.


23 posted on 08/19/2009 4:57:33 PM PDT by GauchoUSA
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To: SJackson

The Black Value System is still on the website of the Trinity United Church of Christ at
http://www.tucc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114

Does anyone know if it was there during the election? The occupant of the WH sat in this black Church for 20 years that advocated and still does advocate The Black Value System and our MSM totally ignored this during the election.


24 posted on 08/19/2009 4:57:42 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: PhiKapMom; SJackson; potlatch; devolve; MeekOneGOP

25 posted on 08/19/2009 5:00:52 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: traditional1

The hippies of the 60s believed that everyone should share....but since they made a point of not working this really meant that those who work and accumulate the necessities are obligated to “share” with those who like to sit on their butts while someone else provides for them.


26 posted on 08/19/2009 5:01:29 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: frogjerk

Right then if that is the case all the money he and the wife throw around on vacations should really be going to the poor for health care. Do as I say and not as I do.


27 posted on 08/19/2009 5:03:36 PM PDT by linn37 ( "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Yes, it was there, but they pulled it off their home page, you had to look for it.


28 posted on 08/19/2009 5:04:22 PM PDT by SJackson (the number-one job facing the middle class...a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. Jobs)
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To: Aria
"The hippies of the 60s believed that everyone should share"

I was there at the time; "share" was what you did to get in any pair of pants you could, preaching "free love" and "peace" (or was it "piece")?

LOL

Now, having squandered the opportunities to excel and/or be productive, you scream, name-call, preach political correctness, etc., so everyone can have "a piece of the pie", that someone else bakes!

29 posted on 08/19/2009 5:04:31 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gots to buy no gas...Obama gonna take care o' me!")
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To: traditional1

I was there too but I suppose I saw it slightly differently since I’m a female...LOL


30 posted on 08/19/2009 5:08:24 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: GauchoUSA
"I know you will agree that not ‘all’ single moms are tramps or live off the government."

The term "single mom" is used universally today, so as not to offend certain tramps, and worse, as opposed to referring to women without husbands legitimately being widows and divorcees.

Those who PURPOSELY become today's "single moms" do so to take advantage of handouts from the government, and in a certain ethnic community, this is the 4th generation of such conduct.

In no way is there a similarity between those groups, but in order not to offend the lesser, we have the terminology changed to be the all-inclusive "single mom".

31 posted on 08/19/2009 5:09:13 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gots to buy no gas...Obama gonna take care o' me!")
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To: SJackson

Thanks!

You have to know where to look to find it now too. The link is on the page with pictures of their ministers.

Wonder what some voters would have thought if this was out in the open during the campaign instead of hidden when he threw Rev Wright under the bus.


32 posted on 08/19/2009 5:09:32 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Aria
"I was there too but I suppose I saw it slightly differently since I’m a female...LOL"

LOL

Good for you !

33 posted on 08/19/2009 5:11:01 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gots to buy no gas...Obama gonna take care o' me!")
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To: PhiKapMom
Do you think this would have made the news if from McCain's Church?

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an European people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Mystery Church is committed to a 10-point Vision:

1. A congregation committed to ADORATION.

2. A congregation preaching SALVATION.

3. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.

4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO EUROPE.

5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.

6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.

7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF EUROPEAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.

8. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.

9. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.

10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.

Click here to read about Dr. ???’s talking points for ??? Christ its Web site and the White Value System.

THE WHITE VALUE SYSTEM

??? Church adopted the White Value System, written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee, chaired by the late Vallmer Jordan in 1981.

Dr. Manford Byrd, our brother in Christ, withstood the ravage of being denied his earned ascension to the number one position in the Chicago School System. His dedication to the pursuit of excellence, despite systematic denials, has inspired the congregation of Trinity United Church of Christ. Prayerfully, we have called upon the wisdom of all past generations of suffering Whites for guidance in fashioning an instrument of White self-determination, the White Value System.

Beginning in 1982, an annual White Value System – Educational Scholarship in the name of Dr. Byrd was instituted. The first recipient of the Dr. Manford Byrd Award, which is given annually to the man or woman who best exemplifies the White Value System, was our brother, Dr. Manford Byrd.

These White Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Whites are gathered. They consist of the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God. “The God of our weary years” will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism and become White Christian Activists, soldiers for White freedom and the dignity of all humankind.

2. Commitment to the White Community. The highest level of achievement for any White person must be a contribution of strength and continuity of the White Community.

3. Commitment to the White Family. The White family circle must generate strength, stability and love, despite the uncertainty of externals, because these characteristics are required if the developing person is to withstand warping by our racist competitive society.

Those Whites who are blessed with membership in a strong family unit must reach out and expand that blessing to the less fortunate.

4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education. We must forswear anti-intellectualism. Continued survival demands that each White person be developed to the utmost of his/her mental potential despite the inadequacies of the formal education process. “Real education” fosters understanding of ourselves as well as every aspect of our environment. Also, it develops within us the ability to fashion concepts and tools for better utilization of our resources, and more effective solutions to our problems. Since the majority of Whites have been denied such learning, White Education must include elements that produce high school graduates with marketable skills, a trade or qualifications for apprenticeships, or proper preparation for college.

Basic education for all Whites should include Mathematics, Science, Logic, General Semantics, Participative Politics, Economics and Finance, and the Care and Nurture of White minds.

5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence. To the extent that we individually reach for, even strain for excellence, we increase, geometrically, the value and resourcefulness of the White Community. We must recognize the relativity of one’s best; this year’s best can be bettered next year. Such is the language of growth and development. We must seek to excel in every endeavor.

6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic. “It is becoming harder to find qualified people to work in Chicago.” Whether this is true or not, it represents one of the many reasons given by businesses and industries for deserting the Chicago area. We must realize that a location with good facilities, adequate transportation and a reputation for producing skilled workers will attract industry. We are in competition with other cities, states and nations for jobs. High productivity must be a goal of the White workforce.

7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect. To accomplish anything worthwhile requires self-discipline. We must be a community of self-disciplined persons if we are to actualize and utilize our own human resources, instead of perpetually submitting to exploitation by others. Self-discipline, coupled with a respect for self, will enable each of us to be an instrument of White Progress and a model for White Youth.

8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness.” Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must be able to identify the “talented tenth” of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor’s control.

Those so identified are separated from the rest of the people by:

1. Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.

2. Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.

3. Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of “we” and “they” instead of “us.”

4. So, while it is permissible to chase “middleclassness” with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method – the psychological entrapment of White “middleclassness.” If we avoid this snare, we will also diminish our “voluntary” contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, White people no longer will be deprived of their birthright: the leadership, resourcefulness and example of their own talented persons.

9. Pledge to Make the Fruits of All Developing and Acquired Skills Available to the White Community.

10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions.

11. Pledge Allegiance to All White Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the White Value System.

12. Personal Commitment to Embracement of the White Value System. To measure the worth and validity of all activity in terms of positive contributions to the general welfare of the White Community and the Advancement of White People towards freedom.

34 posted on 08/19/2009 5:13:53 PM PDT by SJackson (the number-one job facing the middle class...a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. Jobs)
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To: SJackson

Notice how he said “no one in America” rather than “no American”.


35 posted on 08/19/2009 5:16:11 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Aria
I was there too but I suppose I saw it slightly differently
since I’m a female...LOL

Must... Control... Myself...
Too many witty repartees

36 posted on 08/19/2009 5:17:23 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: SJackson
"That is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother's keeper and I am my sister's keeper," Obama said, using a phrase drawn from the Bible.

Yeah right. Took REAL good care of his Hawaiian grandmother, takes REAL good care of his nearly-deported Aunt, and takes REAL good care of his African half-brother living in 'hut sweet hut'. Pre-White-Crib, didn't Barry and Michelle-Omarosa only give a fraction of a percentage of their total income to charity?

37 posted on 08/19/2009 5:17:51 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: SJackson
I am my brother's keeper and I am my sister's keeper," Obama said, using a phrase drawn from the Bible.

FUBO

38 posted on 08/19/2009 5:19:31 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (1st Amendment or the 2nd .... let them choose.)
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To: HarleyD
Notice how he said “no one in America” rather than “no American”.

Missed that. :>)

39 posted on 08/19/2009 5:20:40 PM PDT by SJackson (the number-one job facing the middle class...a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. Jobs)
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“MORAL CASE?” Obama intends to use federal monies for abortion. Cutting 500 billions from Medicare, he plans to withhold care from the elderly, pressuring them to give up and die in government sponsored “exit interviews.” Obama’s health care IS a massive attempt to enhance the power of an Authoritarian State, injecting it into the most sensitive corners of our lives. Power grab, certainly. “Moral”, not at all.
40 posted on 08/19/2009 5:21:24 PM PDT by Godwin1 (E)
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To: frogjerk

The principal problem in reflecting 0bama’s rhetoric and beliefs back onto him is that there is no image seen.

Get the garlic.


41 posted on 08/19/2009 5:21:38 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: smokingfrog
Obama also accused critics of "bearing false witness" about the his proposals, describing claims of federally created "death panels" as an "extraordinary lie." My advice is to not try and quote the bible when you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

Yes. Given the accusations of the last few weeks thrown at American citizens opposed to his plan, a lesson on slander is more important.

42 posted on 08/19/2009 5:22:01 PM PDT by SJackson (the number-one job facing the middle class...a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. Jobs)
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To: Centurion2000

We need a photo of zero getting into AF1 to go next to this photo.

What a #%$king hypocrite. Typical liberal - wants to force all of us to “donate” so he get off cheaper .... and he is obviously really cheap.


43 posted on 08/19/2009 5:23:29 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: SJackson
My education from my parents, school, community and church was that I have a moral responsibility to to provide for the interests “Number One”. (That's “me” for those residing in Loma Linda) Depending on anything else is the road to perdition.

Politicians know this to be true and an independent public is a danger to their tenure.

44 posted on 08/19/2009 5:28:57 PM PDT by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: SJackson
"That is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother's keeper and I am my sister's keeper," Obama said, using a phrase drawn from the Bible.

So Mr. 0, when the government has taken all that I have and fails to help my "neighbor" how do I then "look out" for my neighbor? What Mr. 0 fails to see is, I can do more with what I have in helping my "neighbor" than he and his government minions could ever think of doing to help my "neighbor."

45 posted on 08/19/2009 5:35:25 PM PDT by crazyhorse46
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To: SJackson
"That is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother's keeper and I am my sister's keeper," Obama said,...

I only have one brother and he ain't among Obambi's flock of common theives.

46 posted on 08/19/2009 5:38:40 PM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

0bama's brother, George Hussein Onyango Obama, lives on one dollar per month in a shanty town near Nairobi, Kenya. Barack visited him once. George has never heard from him again.
47 posted on 08/19/2009 5:38:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: SJackson

Could you have imagined the uproar of the media if the situation was reversed. The MSM made sure this did not see the light of day during the election so their ‘hero’ Obama could be elected.

McCain would have been tarred and feathered and had to withdraw his name IMHO!


48 posted on 08/19/2009 5:38:50 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: GauchoUSA

Yes — I hit something like 18 dead and dying uninsured individuals during my morning commute today. I felt bad about it. I’m thinking about changing my stance on government healthcare.


49 posted on 08/19/2009 5:46:50 PM PDT by wolf24 (HOLD FAST)
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To: SJackson

problem here is... i am MORALLY OPPOSED to the fedgov usurping power from the citizens and forcing taxes on us to provide goods for private citizens.

taxes are for the general good. if they can ever refuse a treatment i request, then that is not general good but a private good... and is specifically not allowed with within the Constitution


50 posted on 08/19/2009 5:47:26 PM PDT by sten
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