Posted on 08/20/2009 12:30:40 PM PDT by IbJensen
It makes perfect sense to me, IbJensen.
This pope could not have been any clearer in his defense of this very literal communistic agenda -- one elite power coordinating and controlling every aspect of every person and country on earth.
But that has always been the agenda of Rome so we shouldn't be surprised. Can another Inquisition ("with teeth") be far behind?
Lol. Wonder just what “hand” is “invisible?”
Dear brother in Christ, this is precisely what Pope Benedict is warning us about in Caritas in Veritate. He sees what's going on at the higher echelons of so-called "world government" and transnational institutions. He has "b*tch-slapped" the U.N. big time.
I can’t make rational sense of it
WHEN
I compare what he writes with the real world.
i.e.
He writes AS THOUGH
the satanic globalist government that has been in power for decades and is looming overtly on the near horizon
AS THOUGH
THAT
is remotely redeemable by TRUTH IN LOVE.
It’s not.
It will NOT be redeemed in any way shape or form or degree. Scripture is clear about that.
Things WILL GET PROGRESSIVELY MORE HORRIFIC
until AFTER Armageddon.
HE OUGHT to know that.
Pretending otherwise is . . . beyond words, for someone in his position.
Writing otherwise with all manner of double-speak hopeful sounding words and phrases plays dreadfully into the satanic globalist government’s hands.
I WISH
I could construe it otherwise.
Have pondered it for many weeks.
I would sure like to believ that.
If you can help me see that, wonderful.
I can’t see it from repeated readings.
-- direct quote, from the official English translation found on the Vatican website.67. In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth. One also senses the urgent need to find innovative ways of implementing the principle of the responsibility to protect[146] and of giving poorer nations an effective voice in shared decision-making. This seems necessary in order to arrive at a political, juridical and economic order which can increase and give direction to international cooperation for the development of all peoples in solidarity. To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago. Such an authority would need to be regulated by law, to observe consistently the principles of subsidiarity and solidarity, to seek to establish the common good[147], and to make a commitment to securing authentic integral human development inspired by the values of charity in truth. Furthermore, such an authority would need to be universally recognized and to be vested with the effective power to ensure security for all, regard for justice, and respect for rights[148]. Obviously it would have to have the authority to ensure compliance with its decisions from all parties, and also with the coordinated measures adopted in various international forums. Without this, despite the great progress accomplished in various sectors, international law would risk being conditioned by the balance of power among the strongest nations. The integral development of peoples and international cooperation require the establishment of a greater degree of international ordering, marked by subsidiarity, for the management of globalization[149]. They also require the construction of a social order that at last conforms to the moral order, to the interconnection between moral and social spheres, and to the link between politics and the economic and civil spheres, as envisaged by the Charter of the United Nations.
SURE SOUNDS LIKE
an intensifying, strengthening, worsening
of UN powers
to me.
Hideous.
Thanks.
Well done.
The only people this pope has "b*tch-slapped" would be the American people and citizens of free republics everywhere.
We've had this discussion before and we obviously take away very different opinions of the pope's remarks, especially those listed in POST 91.
Those words are his, and regardless of any surrounding florid prose, those words condemn him.
All Americans should be appalled at his careless dismissal of the liberties God has granted this country for 200 years. Pity some aren't.
Obama seems to want to regulate morality
Muslims want to regulate morality
The Taliban wants to regulate morality
Orthodox jews want to regulate morality
Christian fundamentalists want to regulate morality
A lot of the world's population don't want their morality regulated. A lot want it regulated, just not in the proposed ways
So just who is going to regulate the world's morality? If you believe, as the bible teaches, that man is depraved to begin with, regulating his morality is a futile endeavor
But it should not be assumed that Benedict is sanguine; after all, he begins his purported embrace of world government with a call for UN “reform,” not expansion.
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It seems that the answer to the question is "No".
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Indeed.
trhis distinction explains so much on the RF, doesn't it?
In other words, we will all live under the Law, and I do believe this has been tried before
I sure don’t know. Born again believers should also know enough not to vote for pro-choice candidates but apparently they do not.
If not for sin, we would be living in a world order. In a sinless world, man would obey natural law and be a united brotherhood.
We will live in the kind of world the Pope is talking about after the final judgment; but it is still a goal we should all strive for daily. If everyone did the right thing by every person encountered, this would be heaven on earth.
Our choice to sin affects everything. Some believe that this is why Satan defied God: God chose to create us with free will and Satan saw us as a flawed creation. He couldn’t accept God’s will about us.
Don’t count on everyone else knowing it before Catholics do. They are most apt to be deceived because they feel the Pope can do no wrong. There are many born again Christians who understand end times much more than Catholics do (most Catholics, not all) and we are aware of things as they are beginning to unfold.
On what basis do you make this statement? If this is a reference to "Papal Infallibility," it belies a typically superficial understanding of the term.
With all due respect, if I had to judge just from this one post, I'd say you really don't understand Catholics and Catholicism. And if this is the impression your Catholic friends have given you, maybe you should read up a little more, or expand your circle of buddies a bit.
What’s interesting is that the Pope’s idea of socialism doesn’t appear to be what the leftist view of socialism is. They are all willing to get on board universal health care but are they willing to support abortion to bring it about? Personally, I think the Pope naive believes that you can make pacts with the devil.
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