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Is The United States In a “Low Grade” Civil War?
Gay Patriot ^ | August 21, 2009 | Gay Patriot

Posted on 08/21/2009 9:47:36 AM PDT by Bratch

It is a chilling question and one that has been troubling me for about two weeks. I read the “low grade civil war” phrase as a declarative statement from a commenter on a news story about the Congressional Town Hall meetings and it has been rattling in my brain ever since.

I’ve been wanting to post about this question and today seemed like the right time since now I’m not the only one worried about this question. In today’s Washington Times, actor/activist Jon Voight makes this statement:

“There’s a real question at stake now. Is President Obama creating a civil war in our own country?” Mr. Voight tells Inside the Beltway.

“We are witnessing a slow, steady takeover of our true freedoms. We are becoming a socialist nation, and whoever can’t see this is probably hoping it isn’t true. If we permit Mr. Obama to take over all our industries, if we permit him to raise our taxes to support unconstitutional causes, then we will be in default. This great America will become a paralyzed nation.”

“Do not let the Obama administration fool you with all their cunning Alinsky methods. And if you don’t know what that method is, I implore you to get the book ‘Rules for Radicals,’ by Saul Alinsky . Mr. Obama is very well trained in these methods.”


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar; coldcivilwar; culturewars; obama; voight
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To: Freddd

Weedership? Do you mean the guy in the Whine House, or the Public Serpents in general?


41 posted on 08/21/2009 10:31:39 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 212 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Bratch

this is a case of the government turning on we the people.


42 posted on 08/21/2009 10:32:09 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Durus

Here’s a perfect example of what this book is about.

Hispanic Group Attacks Obamacare Protesters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mslFPmo5Owc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ethebigfeedblog%2Ecom%2F2009%2F08%2Fracist%2Dhispanic%2Dgroup%2Dattacks%2Dobamacare%2Ehtml&feature=player_embedded


43 posted on 08/21/2009 10:32:24 AM PDT by American Silver Eagle
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To: American Silver Eagle

Isn’t that Thomas Chittum’s website? IIRC I read that CWII back in the late 90’s.


44 posted on 08/21/2009 10:32:36 AM PDT by Ammo Republic 15
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To: Ammo Republic 15

It is his book. I didn’t realize he had a website.


45 posted on 08/21/2009 10:34:14 AM PDT by American Silver Eagle
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To: Tublecane

Bump that.

The answer is “NO”.

Someone doesn’t understand the term “civil war”.
We’re not even in a “cold civil war” because there isn’t a real “civil war” being restrained.

In the Cold War, we were always just 1 hour from full-on WWIII going “hot”, held back only because the heat would singe both sides horribly. It ended only because one side couldn’t keep up with the escalation of threats.

Nobody here has gone “hot”. Nobody is threatening to. It’s a future possibility if things keep going this way, but we’re sure not there yet.

Gettin’ tired of all this hyperbolic rhetoric.


46 posted on 08/21/2009 10:34:42 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (flag@whitehouse.gov may bounce messages but copies may be kept. Informants are still solicited.)
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To: Ammo Republic 15

What did you think of the book?


47 posted on 08/21/2009 10:34:45 AM PDT by American Silver Eagle
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To: American Silver Eagle

I don’t know if he still does but I definitely remember back during the Clinton years he had one.


48 posted on 08/21/2009 10:38:29 AM PDT by Ammo Republic 15
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To: American Silver Eagle

We are not in a low grade Civil War. So, readers, just relax, keep buying guns, ammo and provision while the opposition keeps looking to Obama for handouts.

When the real war starts, it won’t be hard to subdue the lazy opportunists who voted this chump in. At the same time,we might clean up the street raf that victimize people by preying on the peaceful.


49 posted on 08/21/2009 10:40:23 AM PDT by johnnycap
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To: American Silver Eagle

Loved it! Meaning, of course, that I was pretty much in aggreement with what he was saying. I’m gonna go back later on tonight and refresh my memory on the CWII link you provided.


50 posted on 08/21/2009 10:40:38 AM PDT by Ammo Republic 15
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To: piperpilot
Clearly, the Silent Majority has had enough.

No it hasn't. The sheeple are bleating, but that's all you'll hear.

51 posted on 08/21/2009 10:42:06 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: American Silver Eagle

I know what the book is about...I just don’t think it’s particularly well written or well thought out.


52 posted on 08/21/2009 10:56:47 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: screaminsunshine

>>The South will Rise Again.

Look away Dixieland.<<

And when she does, their will be H&!! to pay for 144 years of Yankee occupation.

Deo vindice


53 posted on 08/21/2009 10:57:36 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Bratch

“If we permit Mr. Obama to take over all our industries...”

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Always remember that he cannot do it unless he has the support of numerous congresscritters.


54 posted on 08/21/2009 10:59:07 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: null and void

“Public Serpents”, LOL, good one, and right on-target.


55 posted on 08/21/2009 11:02:43 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: RC2
That is why I am for bringing our National Guard home and return them to the control of the States and not the Feds.

But the troops can be "federalized" overnight and control taken away from the states. That's why you see State Troopers guarding those little black girls during the Arkansas desegregation. The governor called up the Guard, Eisenhower federalized them, leaving the state the next line of defense - State Troopers.

56 posted on 08/21/2009 11:05:45 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Durus

Oh well. Post #50 like it as well.


57 posted on 08/21/2009 11:06:46 AM PDT by American Silver Eagle
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

>>America is not socialistic and never will be.<<

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Don’t be so sure of that. Too many people have been promised to get something for nothing and it is human nature to like getting things for free. 95% of blacks and 53% of American Catholic voters have voted for a socialist agenda.

Also remember that an overwhelming number of immigrants in the last 30 years have come from socialist countries. This country is rife with citizens who want something for nothing.


58 posted on 08/21/2009 11:10:02 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Bratch
"Civil war" is probably not the correct way to characterize it. A "civil war" is when two or more groups of citizens actually go to war over something.

Perhaps more accurate would be to characterize it as the spread of apathy among the population, tending toward disdain for the antics of our government.... a rather different dynamic.

59 posted on 08/21/2009 11:13:25 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: RetroSexual

I would hope they stay put of it.


60 posted on 08/21/2009 11:18:02 AM PDT by ronnietherocket2
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