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DeMint And Bachmann Call On States To Collectively Fight ObamaCare If Passed
TPM ^ | 8/21/09 | Eric Kleefield

Posted on 08/21/2009 10:18:56 AM PDT by pissant

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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Crist is a RINO and whoever replaces him will be a RINO too. Maybe Idaho or Wyoming. Or surprise..Hawaii.


41 posted on 08/21/2009 12:05:45 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: tom h

So Rick Perry of Texaas must be nuts also. I mean if some guy on the internet says it’s hopeless it must be /sarcasm. We could go into your ignorance on basic civics and the separation of powers but I guess you need to point me to the SCOTUS Police Force website. I thought so.


42 posted on 08/21/2009 12:08:39 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: screaminsunshine

You need to pass the legislation first. One can’t sue in federal court without “standing,” and that means you suffered or will suffer injury; and that the law is currently in place, not future.

It has already happened regarding gun control. During the Clinton years the Congress passed a bill limiting the possession of guns nearby public schools. Another dumb liberal law that would have no impact on safety; meaning, if a bad guy wanted to murder children he would not be deterred because a sign said it was illegal. It passed anyway. But the SCOTUS struck it down citing the Tenth Amendment.

So we have hope.


43 posted on 08/21/2009 12:14:07 PM PDT by tom h
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To: Beloved Levinite

Actually, I’m not an attorney, just a technical man with a love of American history.

Unfortunately, the executive branch is pretty independent under our Constitution so the Congress (one of the independent branches of our government) and the Federal judiciary (another independent branch of our government) would have a tough time stopping the mere appointment of czars — by definition, they are an extension of the executive. I think about all Congress could do is throttle back on the funding for the Executive Branch — of course, that would need a GOP legislature. Meaning, if the Congress is willing to fund it, then the POTUS could have a bevy of advisors, or czars, for every purpose under the sun. They would have not statutory authority, but they could talk and write and issue their stupid opinions the whole day long.

But recall that Executive Privilege is not absolute — remember back to HillaryCare in 1994. Not sure if I recall why.

Our best course of action is, naturally, the Second Amendment. Free speech and the media. Hammer the Administration to be “transparent” like he promised. Protest with placards outside the White House. Keep AM talk show hosts riled up and excited. In the end, that is the citizen’s best protection against executive abuses. Free speech, free media, and an honest (hopefully) judiciary. [Note, I do not include liberals like Ruth Bader Ginsburg in that category.]


44 posted on 08/21/2009 12:21:00 PM PDT by tom h
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To: pissant

The MSM and liberal blogosphere will continue to mock them as loonies, and possibly racists. Simultaneously, they will applaud state and local ignorance of federal drug and immigration laws.


45 posted on 08/21/2009 12:21:29 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: pburgh01

Be more careful in your reading. I think we are in agreement. I was telling the other two to have hope; they were both lamenting about hopelessness.


46 posted on 08/21/2009 12:23:31 PM PDT by tom h
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A lot of you may be surprised to find that our new governor, Sean Parnell, is even more conservative than Sarah. I have high hopes. The population of Alaska is, to a large extent, anti-federal govenment. I think we would be willing to join any sort of legal challenge to this farce.


47 posted on 08/21/2009 12:23:57 PM PDT by white17x
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To: tom h

“If Obama attempted something punitive, like punishing the claimant states, the judge could literally fine the Gov’t and direct the behavior to stop. THAT is the kind of publicity that even Obama doesn’t want. The judge could even hold the Cabinet members, and the President, in contempt of court”

All Obama has to do is threaten to withold money. That would be enough, in my opinion. State governments have very little backbone.


48 posted on 08/21/2009 12:25:27 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Well, I understand your point given that you’re from Minnesota, where hearts bleed and pansies reign. Not you, of course — but it never ceases to amaze me how people of Nordic stock — tremendous common sense, other great cultural attributes — can be so loopy sometimes.


49 posted on 08/21/2009 12:39:46 PM PDT by tom h
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To: tom h

Thanks tom. They’ll be going hard after talk radio soon. The new “brother” that 0 appointed to the FCC will see to it. We gotta push back HARD when that one rears it’s ugly head.


50 posted on 08/21/2009 3:34:49 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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51 posted on 08/21/2009 7:10:24 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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