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Obama Falsely Stated 46 Million "can't get health insurance"
White House ^ | Auguts 20, 2009

Posted on 08/22/2009 7:31:04 AM PDT by AJFavish

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Radio-Interview-of-the-President-by-Michael-Smerconish/

In this interview Obama states: "So all we've said is let's keep the private system intact, but let's make sure that people who right now can't get health insurance -- about 46 million -- that they're able to buy into the market."

Previously he would say that these 46 million don't have health insurance, without explaining the reasons why, which include: many are non-U.S. citizens, many can afford it but choose not to have it, many are eligible for medcaid but have not enrolled, etc. See more here: http://keithhennessey.com/2009/08/14/portsmouth-20/

Now Obama increases his deception by stating that these people "can't get health insurance". At what point do you conclude that Obama is not an idiot and that his deceptions are intentional?


TOPICS: Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: healthcare

1 posted on 08/22/2009 7:31:05 AM PDT by AJFavish
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To: AJFavish
Previously he would say that these 46 million don't have health insurance, without explaining the reasons why, which include: many are non-U.S. citizens over 30 million are illegals, many can afford it but choose not to have it, many are eligible for medcaid but have not enrolled, etc.
2 posted on 08/22/2009 7:32:44 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: AJFavish

Do you mean it comes as news that Hussein’s deceptions are and have always been INTENTIONAL??? He is a Chicago thug!! An ardent, would-be dictator and self-righteous, arrogant swine. Next question.


3 posted on 08/22/2009 7:35:39 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: AJFavish

Marxist propaganda.

These fascists will do EVERYTHING, legal or illegal, to further their agenda. Don’t think for a minute they will stop with the lies.


4 posted on 08/22/2009 7:39:19 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: org.whodat

>>> over 30 million are illegals, many can afford it but choose not to have it, <<<

Thanks for making that correction to 30 million illegals.

I think (hope, pray) that many Americans are finally waking up to the illegal aliens scam as it pertains to health care.

Zer0 promised only two weeks ago that he’ll be assaulting America with Round 3 of “Comprehensive Immigration Reforma” aka AMNESTY in 2010.

This whole “health reform” scam is from top to bottom an attempt to get the everyday American citizen to pay for the health care of 25 million++ illegal aliens, whom Capitol Hill intends to make “legal residents” in 2010.

AGAIN!


5 posted on 08/22/2009 7:42:21 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: org.whodat
Previously he would say that these 46 million don't have health insurance, without explaining the reasons why,

Because some of the explanations aren't favorable to his cause. In some states people can't go outside of the state to purchase insurance. The have to buy the expensive state mandated coverage or buy nothing at all..

6 posted on 08/22/2009 7:43:14 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: AJFavish

The truth does not concern the left. They are much like their master Satan and are masters of deception using lusts of the flesh, lust of the eyes and the pride of life to deceive and destroy all who believe them.
Jesus (the Christ of God who came in the flesh and who was sinless and crucified for our sins and who rose again the third day) will punish them for their hatred of their fellow man and all the evil they love to do.
It is appointed to man once to die and after that the judgement.
PS 94:1 O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself.
PS 94:2 Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud.


7 posted on 08/22/2009 7:43:52 AM PDT by kindred (Facts are a stubborn thing, but people are even more stubborn and will deny facts.)
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To: AJFavish

Muslims are allowed to lie to further what ever cause they are trying to accomplish.


8 posted on 08/22/2009 7:45:12 AM PDT by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: AJFavish

SCHIP was passed this year—that took 11 million kids out of the 47 million number, which has been used since the campaign in 2008.

At most, that means 36 million people is the starting point. Take off 25-30 million illegals, and we have 6-11 million people left. Take off the young people and others who don’t take coverage, you can see this crisis is completely bogus.


9 posted on 08/22/2009 7:53:03 AM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: AJFavish

President Wee Wee lie, never. sarc/


10 posted on 08/22/2009 7:59:36 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: AJFavish

Why should we pay for someones pre-existing condition or terminal diseases?

The environmental movement is opposing this as they believe survival of the fittest. The enviro goal is to rid the planet of humans and the sickest and weakest need to go.


11 posted on 08/22/2009 8:06:58 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: AJFavish
Paul Mirengoff of Powerline wrote an excellent essay about the uninsured on August 15 in which he cites an article by Keith Hennessey. Hennessey analyzed 20 statements made by President Obama during the town hall meeting on health care at Portsmouth, New Hampshire. You can read it at Who are the uninsured and should we pay to cover them?.

Here's a quick breakdown of the 46 million. This is the first time I've actually seen somebody attempt to figure out who these people are; like you, I am very skeptical of this bloated claim:

Number Description
6.5 M The "Medicaid undercount" actually are insured. They are enrolled in Medicaid or S-CHIP but didn't tell the census taker.
4.5 M People who are eligible for Medicaid or S-CHIP but have not enrolled. If they need care, the hospital or clinic generally enrolls them. In other words, they do not (as Obama claims) go bankrupt or without treatment. In any case, it would be ridiculous to overhaul our healthcare system to provide insurance to people who are already eligible for government assistance but have failed to avail themselves of it.
9.5 M Non-citizens. People will disagree about what portion of this group should receive government subsidized health insurance, but why should they be eligible at all?

Keep in mind that being uninsured is not the same as having to pay (or pay much) for treatment. Illegal immigrants find ways to receive free or inexpensive treatment for themselves and their children. In general, I've read (though I can't find the source) that the uninsured receive about half the amount of money per capita to pay for medical treatment that the insured receive.

10.0 M This group earns an income more than three times the poverty line. As such, they can afford to buy medical insurance. Taxpayers should not be required to buy it for them. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
15.5 M About one-third of Obama's 46 million actually are uninsured, cannot become insured simply by enrolling in a free program, are U.S. citizens, and cannot easily afford to purchase insurance. About 5 million members of this cohort are childless adults.

It is understandable that many Americans would like to see the government do something for this group, or at least those members who are not young, childless, healthy adults with decent starter salaries who simply think it makes economic sense to assume the small risk that they will incur large medical expenses. But it is also understandable that many Americans favor targeting this group through incremental measures to assist them in purchasing insurance, rather than through a radical overhaul of our healthcare system at a massive cost.


12 posted on 08/22/2009 8:07:02 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: AJFavish
Obama uses Ebonics Math.
And we know he's not too good with numbers - just look at the economy.

"55, 56, 57... Now where's Michigan, Florida and West Virginia?"


13 posted on 08/22/2009 8:25:47 AM PDT by Iron Munro (America's awkward stage: too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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To: AJFavish

What he meant to say was there are millions who don’t want to pay for their insurance, they want someone else to pay.


14 posted on 08/22/2009 8:34:20 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: AJFavish

Who needs health insurance? Hospitals cannot withhold treatment for lack of ability to pay. It’s already federal law. There are federally mandated notices to that effect posted in hospital emergency waiting rooms.


15 posted on 08/22/2009 8:37:22 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: AJFavish

I put on my tinfoil hat and all of this obama death care push and dems desire for a lax boarder suddenly starts to melt together and make a weird kinda since to me.

The government blew through our social security savings and bankrupted the system but the dems wouldn’t let President Bush try to fix it. Even though the social security system has always been their holey grail. Seemed crazy that they would fight against saving it, say Bush was lying, say that social security was just fine, say that it wasn’t going bankrupt, even though everybody knew it was.

Now obama and the dems are on a do or die mission to force us all on their public health care option weather Americans want it or not. Calling us un-American and nazi’s and thug’s if we stand up and say we don’t want it.

Question: Does turning a blind eye to illegals mean that illegals are paying into the bankrupted social security system with every paycheck and the government get’s to keep all that money because they are illegals?

Because if they do, and you can force this death care on the American people, then you can solve your bankrupt social security problem by just denying life saving treatment to the millions of baby boomers who are just about to start signing up to receive their social security checks from your bankrupt system, your holy grail. And the influx of money from all the illegals that you let pour in through lax boarders will save your dying bankrupt system, your holy grail.

Sounds sick doesn’t it? And it would mean that liberal dems had been planning for a long long time for this death care. Starting back with Hillery care. Back about the time the boarder suddenly seemed to disappear and illegals first started flooding in.


16 posted on 08/22/2009 8:38:30 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/music/Gloria+Jane)
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To: AJFavish

This part of the huge fantasy that the Democrats, the organized left and the MSM have been selling to the American people for decades. The truth is the uninsured poor in this country, as well as illegal aliens, get the best health care in the world by simply walking into an emergency room and we are already footing the bill. And the other parts of the big lie are that the ‘hungry’ in America also suffer from morbid obesity, and the ‘poor’ in America have Blackberries, Ipods, laptop computers and cable television. The rest of America is so intimidated that even to mention these obvious inconsistencies results in immediate personal attacks and relentless hate. Unless and until we dare speak the truth that is right before our eyes, the facist movement will continue to have momentum until there is nothing left but fear and manufactured reality.


17 posted on 08/22/2009 9:01:13 AM PDT by Spok
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To: AJFavish
Now Obama increases his deception by stating that these people "can't get health insurance". At what point do you conclude that Obama is not an idiot and that his deceptions are intentional?

Even that is not the fundamental question. Even though he used the word "citizens," more than once.

We know that he deliberately included the 15-30 million ILLEGAL ALIENS in our country.

Hell, he might as well have included 90% of the estimated 930,000,000 people in all the Americas south of our border which by his warped logic would all qualify.
Anybody think that is an even fantasy expectation for the real working, tax-paying American citizens to support?

Let's talk about the other obvious 900-pound gorilla:

It ain't insurance.
Covering all pre-existing conditions no longer fits the real world definition of insurance.

It's no less than just another massive welfare program.

Social security was destroyed by that logic. Medicare was equally decimated and doomed to fail, sooner rather than later.

People don't have to contribute a red cent to get "benefits." But they all vote.

Where did the United States of America go?

18 posted on 08/22/2009 9:47:41 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: angkor
Zer0 promised only two weeks ago that he’ll be assaulting America with Round 3 of “Comprehensive Immigration Reforma” aka AMNESTY in 2010.

Well, if there is even a remote possibility of justice in my universe, he'll be doing it as a "community organizer."

19 posted on 08/22/2009 9:50:00 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
my wife and I are among this five million. We are unable to find affordable health insurance. we are in our 50s and have been quoted some 1600 a month for bare bones insurance here in California. My wife does have controllable high blood pressure. Me, Healthy but overweight like the rest of America.

I am against Obama Care, as is my wife, even though we would benefit from this program, at least at first.

I am in favor of a sliding scale payment of those of us that fall in this category. I have no problem paying for insurance, its just that it should be affordable.

20 posted on 08/22/2009 11:28:52 AM PDT by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: org.whodat

Actually, 12.6 million of that 46 million are illegal aliens. The fact that he is using the 46 million number gives lie to his statement that no one is talking about covering illegal aliens. He is talking about covering illegal aliens.


21 posted on 08/22/2009 1:13:14 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Iron Munro

Good grief, he’s using Lincoln’s desk.


22 posted on 08/22/2009 1:16:51 PM PDT by MaxMax (Will the real JIM THOMPSON please pick up the white phone)
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To: AJFavish
Obama Falsely Stated 46 Million "can't get health insurance"

His statistics are all wee wee'd up.

23 posted on 08/22/2009 1:20:52 PM PDT by MamaTexan (If you think calling me a 'birther' will stop me from defending the Constitution........think again!)
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To: AJFavish; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


24 posted on 08/22/2009 10:10:42 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: AJFavish

When does Zero EVER tell the truth? Lies come naturally to all these Socilists.


25 posted on 08/22/2009 10:12:31 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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