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The Law of Nations and Not English Common Law Defines [a] "Natural Born Citizen"
A Place to Ask Questions To Get the Right Answers ^ | August 20, 2009 | Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

Posted on 8/23/2009, 5:19:26 PM by Vincent Jappi

Given the profound differences between the citizenship rules associated with the English common law and those connected with American national citizenship, it is evident that the Founders did not use English common law to define what an Article II “natural born Citizen” is but rather used the law of nations for that purpose.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: commonlaw; lawofnations; naturalborn; vattel
How and why the Framers relied on the Law of Nations rather than the Common-law concept of "natural-born subject" to define a "natural-born citizen".
1 posted on 8/23/2009, 5:19:27 PM by Vincent Jappi
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To: djsherin

PING to an excellent Apuzzo article.


2 posted on 8/23/2009, 5:37:03 PM by MamaTexan (If you think calling me a 'birther' will stop me from defending the Constitution........think again!)
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To: Vincent Jappi
Further proof that the Founders in defining citizenship did not accept English common law but rather the law of nations which was based on natural law can be found in the Congressional debates concerning the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment. When commenting on the proposed amendment on May 30, 1866, Senator Howard said:

"This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Govern- of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."

Congressional Globe, 39th Congress, 1st Session, May 30, 1866, P. 2890, col. 2.

This is why the entire concept of anchor baby is nothing more than BS., And why the supreme court sent the children of the railroad coolies home.

3 posted on 8/23/2009, 5:40:35 PM by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat

Not after Wong Kim Ark???


4 posted on 8/23/2009, 5:45:26 PM by Vincent Jappi
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To: Vincent Jappi

Preaching to the choir. No matter which way it’s spun, Hussein is NOT eligible.


5 posted on 8/23/2009, 5:57:41 PM by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Vincent Jappi
Clearest explanation of Øbama's ineligibily to be POTUS that I have yet seen:

It was also the law of nations that defined a “natural born citizen” as one that is born in the country to parents who are themselves citizens. It is this definition which became incorporated into federal common law and which Obama cannot satisfy because his father was a British subject/citizen and not a U.S. citizen and Obama himself was a British subject/citizen by descent when he was born. Obama's British citizenship, which continues in effect today, also allowed him to gain Kenyan citizenship from the age of 2 to the age of 21. Obama is therefore not an Article II "natural born Citizen" and [is] ineligible to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military.

The only way that Øbama can prove himself to be a natural born citizen” is to produce a long form birth certificate showing his father to be some American citizen, and not the Kenyan/British subject upon which he built his fictitious life story in his books.

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That is a nasty "Catch-22". No wonder that Øbama is sparing no expense or effort -- avoiding the "embarrassment" of revealing his true citizenship -- either way he is a total loser and a complete fraud....

6 posted on 8/23/2009, 6:02:59 PM by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Vincent Jappi
Wrong!!
7 posted on 8/23/2009, 6:14:20 PM by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: MamaTexan

Thanks, I’ll get to it later tonight. Busy, busy, busy...


8 posted on 8/23/2009, 9:53:58 PM by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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