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Bill would give president emergency control of Internet
CNET ^ | August 28, 2009 12:34 AM PDT | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 08/28/2009 8:13:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.

"I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness," said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, Verisign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board. "It is unclear what authority Sen. Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector. Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill."

Representatives of other large Internet and telecommunications companies expressed concerns about the bill in a teleconference with Rockefeller's aides this week, but were not immediately available for interviews on Thursday.

A spokesman for Rockefeller also declined to comment on the record Thursday, saying that many people were unavailable because of the summer recess. A Senate source familiar with the bill compared the president's power to take control of portions of the Internet to what President Bush did when grounding all aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001. The source said that one primary concern was the electrical grid, and what would happen if it were attacked from a broadband connection.

When Rockefeller, the chairman of the Senate Commerce committee, and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) introduced the original bill in April, they claimed it was vital to protect national cybersecurity. "We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs--from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records," Rockefeller said.

The Rockefeller proposal plays out against a broader concern in Washington, D.C., about the government's role in cybersecurity. In May, President Obama acknowledged that the government is "not as prepared" as it should be to respond to disruptions and announced that a new cybersecurity coordinator position would be created inside the White House staff. Three months later, that post remains empty, one top cybersecurity aide has quit, and some wags have begun to wonder why a government that receives failing marks on cybersecurity should be trusted to instruct the private sector what to do.

Rockefeller's revised legislation seeks to reshuffle the way the federal government addresses the topic. It requires a "cybersecurity workforce plan" from every federal agency, a "dashboard" pilot project, measurements of hiring effectiveness, and the implementation of a "comprehensive national cybersecurity strategy" in six months--even though its mandatory legal review will take a year to complete.

The privacy implications of sweeping changes implemented before the legal review is finished worry Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco. "As soon as you're saying that the federal government is going to be exercising this kind of power over private networks, it's going to be a really big issue," he says.

Probably the most controversial language begins in Section 201, which permits the president to "direct the national response to the cyber threat" if necessary for "the national defense and security." The White House is supposed to engage in "periodic mapping" of private networks deemed to be critical, and those companies "shall share" requested information with the federal government. ("Cyber" is defined as anything having to do with the Internet, telecommunications, computers, or computer networks.)

"The language has changed but it doesn't contain any real additional limits," EFF's Tien says. "It simply switches the more direct and obvious language they had originally to the more ambiguous (version)...The designation of what is a critical infrastructure system or network as far as I can tell has no specific process. There's no provision for any administrative process or review. That's where the problems seem to start. And then you have the amorphous powers that go along with it."

Translation: If your company is deemed "critical," a new set of regulations kick in involving who you can hire, what information you must disclose, and when the government would exercise control over your computers or network.

The Internet Security Alliance's Clinton adds that his group is "supportive of increased federal involvement to enhance cyber security, but we believe that the wrong approach, as embodied in this bill as introduced, will be counterproductive both from an national economic and national secuity perspective."


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1 posted on 08/28/2009 8:13:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

fyi


2 posted on 08/28/2009 8:14:04 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All

Hello ACLU?? Where are you??


3 posted on 08/28/2009 8:15:57 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Where are all the civil liberties groups and the ACLU at now?
4 posted on 08/28/2009 8:16:51 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
When it looked like Iran was ready to have a revolution, I suggested that what was needed was a way to deploy wireless routers that could communicate with each other to form a self-organizing peer-to-peer network outside of the Mullah's control. Little did I know that we would need one too.
5 posted on 08/28/2009 8:18:05 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But, but... I thought it was ‘Evil Republicans’ that were the threat to our liberties? /s


6 posted on 08/28/2009 8:18:13 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Since this outrage has been in the works since Spring...Where is the msm in alerting the public to this Fascist Bill.


7 posted on 08/28/2009 8:18:34 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Bahbah; STARWISE; Uncle Ike; penelopesire; holdonnow; Miss Didi

OMG

This is an example of what’s sooooooo disturbing about these people. This is a huge piece of news- but there’s SO MUCH ELSE he’s got us looking at that this isn’t on the radar.

YET!


8 posted on 08/28/2009 8:18:59 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

9 posted on 08/28/2009 8:20:29 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Define: emergency & threat
10 posted on 08/28/2009 8:21:09 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

LOL!

And why does Sen Snowe ...a Republican ... sponsor this ....?


11 posted on 08/28/2009 8:21:21 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...and electronic health records

Kinda jumping the gun there aren't ya?

Further, nothing like pissing off the 'youngsters' who will love to hack any kind of blockade you try to impose.

Oh, they are also the voter base that got you elected.

Hey kids, you are welcome to join our side of reality (and we told ya so!)

12 posted on 08/28/2009 8:22:52 AM PDT by This_far
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Senator of Durbin is for taxing any purchases on the internet. In fact, why not tax garage sales too.


13 posted on 08/28/2009 8:23:40 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Is it a coincidence that Obama's vacation of relaxation and meditation coincides with Ramadan?)
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To: KevinDavis
Hello ACLU?? Where are you??

Since the "antithesis" rather than the "thesis" is the target, they don't care.

14 posted on 08/28/2009 8:23:53 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Timcheh 'et-zekher `Amaleq mitachat hashamayim; lo tiskhach!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bill would give president emergency control of Internet.

This may be the "Reichstag Fire Enabling Act" of 2009

15 posted on 08/28/2009 8:24:11 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I dare them to try it. It would be suicide..political and otherwise.
16 posted on 08/28/2009 8:24:56 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Obama voters deserve to suffer.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

obama ,like all tyrants,wants total control over speech.


17 posted on 08/28/2009 8:25:20 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is a blatant attempt by the government to control all forms of communication. We aren't to know anything other than what the government tells us. If Obama stays in power much longer, the government will control talk radio and the Internet. They already control everything else.
18 posted on 08/28/2009 8:25:41 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Puppage
Define: emergency & threat

Emergency and threat; Definition: Articles in the Breaking news and activism section on FreeRepublic that have at least three responses casting the 0bummer Admin in a negative light.

All your FReeRepublic are now belong to us.

19 posted on 08/28/2009 8:25:44 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sent this to Drudge and Rush


20 posted on 08/28/2009 8:27:15 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

” but there’s SO MUCH ELSE he’s got us looking at that this isn’t on the radar. “

That’s pure Alinski — overwhelm the system.. Attack on more fronts (since the attacks cost them virtually nothing) than we can defend (since we must expend resources in the defense), and they’ll eventually score enough victories to drive us out...

We need to start thinking strategically, too, if we’re to survive....


21 posted on 08/28/2009 8:28:08 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Liz
The internet was the creation of Algore after all. s/
22 posted on 08/28/2009 8:28:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There is no “internet” to control. The internet is the word used to describe the set of protocols and rules that must be followed in order for one computer to exchange information with another. The internet is not in one central location, and is not an object. The internet is distributed, not centralized. There is no one central organization that manages the internet.
What they really mean here is ignoring reality and principles of law and blocking/allowing access to the network for political reasons.


23 posted on 08/28/2009 8:29:20 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Fascism: coming back, thanks to the democrats)
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To: Puppage

That is easy, a threat is anyone that disagrees with the Obama administration. And an emergency is any event that the Obama administration can use to increase the power of the Presidency. And I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.


24 posted on 08/28/2009 8:29:29 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Only Property Owners that pay taxes should have the right to Vote")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Drudge has it up in BIG LETTERS NOW!!!!!

WOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!


25 posted on 08/28/2009 8:32:25 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

26 posted on 08/28/2009 8:32:39 AM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Can’t be true! The fascisbushchimpyhitler is no longer in office!


27 posted on 08/28/2009 8:33:18 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: SE Mom; All

Drudge@drudgereport.com


28 posted on 08/28/2009 8:34:23 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

No more FR

29 posted on 08/28/2009 8:34:29 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - No socialist Bureaucrat on a Death Panel is going to decide whether I live or die!)
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To: Uncle Ike

I’m not sure if I’m up to strategic thinking anymore- but my tactics are changing...going shopping with my son for a sig.


30 posted on 08/28/2009 8:35:02 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We can all get ham radio sets and tune in to ‘radio free America’


31 posted on 08/28/2009 8:35:10 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And why does Sen Snowe ...a Republican ... sponsor this ....?

Because she's a reliable useful idiot.

32 posted on 08/28/2009 8:36:08 AM PDT by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: rwfromkansas

up in a big red headline


33 posted on 08/28/2009 8:37:12 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Puppage

The “emergency” will occur right before they go on a firearms confiscation agenda.

I’ve said all along that if you’re caught up in the first “wave” of confiscation, remain free as your top priority, and get the word out,

so that subsequent waves are met with organized resistance.

They want to prevent the word getting out.


34 posted on 08/28/2009 8:37:57 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Same reason she sold her party out previously...having a “R” next to your name doesnt make you a Republican, just like sticking feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken


35 posted on 08/28/2009 8:37:57 AM PDT by texrepub76
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; penelopesire; Liz; LucyT; STARWISE; Protect the Bill of Rights

CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

http://www.politechbot.com/docs/rockefeller.revised.cybersecurity.draft.082709.pdf

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http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s773/show

S.773 - Cybersecurity Act of 2009


36 posted on 08/28/2009 8:38:07 AM PDT by maggief (KennedyCare ... Dead in the Water)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And nobody is scared?

Maybe with this information everyone will begin to think - Why does he need this power if it is only for our good?

People, you have been warned. Take heed! Our freedoms are just about to disappear if you (we) don’t take immediate action.


37 posted on 08/28/2009 8:38:19 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why is it that whenever there is a steaming pile of crap, Jay Rockefeller is always somehow right nearby? This guy is bigtime trouble.


38 posted on 08/28/2009 8:38:20 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The gov needs to take care of gov not private industry.


39 posted on 08/28/2009 8:38:32 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There’s nothing they won’t do.


40 posted on 08/28/2009 8:38:37 AM PDT by wastedyears (Genesis, Sega CD and Saturn work, and my 360 red rings after 2 and a half years.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Algore invented the internet. Shouldn’t he decide how we use it????????????????/s


41 posted on 08/28/2009 8:39:50 AM PDT by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m STILL wondering why Hathaway resigned.

http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/08/04/wh-on-resignation-of-cybersecurity-adviser-melissa-hathaway/


42 posted on 08/28/2009 8:40:03 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here's one man that would be proud: Paul Joseph Goebbels (German pronunciation: [ˈɡœbəls], English: /ˈɡɝːbəlz/; 29 October 1897 – 1 May 1945) was a German politician and Reichsminister of Propaganda in Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. He was one of German dictator Adolf Hitler's closest associates and most devout followers, eventually succeeding him as Chancellor of Germany, an office he held for only one day, carrying out one official act: sending a delegation to seek a ceasefire with the Russians. Goebbels was known for his zealous oratory and anti-Semitism. He was the chief architect of the Kristallnacht attack on the German Jews, which historians consider to be the commencement of the Nazi violence culminating in the Holocaust.
43 posted on 08/28/2009 8:40:04 AM PDT by texrepub76
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To: This_far

Hacking won’t do much good when the Obamastaffel marches into your ISP’s office and orders the power shut off.


44 posted on 08/28/2009 8:40:09 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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To: KarlInOhio

The Iranian regime was the first thing that popped into my mind when I read the headline.
EVERY day I read or hear about actions being taken or proposed by this administration that are identical to those currently used in Iran.
It’s very scary.


45 posted on 08/28/2009 8:42:20 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Absolutely not! Don’t let Obama control the internet! Part of the schema, though, according to Beck and Limbaugh.


46 posted on 08/28/2009 8:42:35 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Fresh Wind

bump for later


47 posted on 08/28/2009 8:42:50 AM PDT by razbinn (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency...

Headline for this story is in HUGE red text on Drudge right now. Freakin' unbelievable...

48 posted on 08/28/2009 8:43:08 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This needs to be put on ‘front page’ or ‘breaking news’. Just sayin’.


49 posted on 08/28/2009 8:44:06 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell)
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To: Niteranger68
I dare them to try it. It would be suicide..political and otherwise.

You are going to WAIT and see what happens? If that is everyone's attitude - even more will have to die to get our country back from his grip.

Woe to the man who thinks he can wait and hope things get better.
It is getting worse.
How bad do you want it to get before you all take action?

50 posted on 08/28/2009 8:44:43 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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