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Evolution Embedded in American Thought (polls show our Judeo-Christian heritage is eroding)
ICR ^ | August 28, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 08/28/2009 8:53:44 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Polling data has revealed a trend indicating that “America is not a Christian nation.”[1] Although a large majority of Americans outwardly claim to be Christian, their inward beliefs are actually non-Christian. Why is this so?

Classic Christianity is based on certain fundamental doctrines that are clearly taught in the Bible, such as the universality of sin, the universality of access to the Savior, and the exclusivity of that Savior.[2] But apparently, many of those who call themselves Christians deny that Jesus Christ is the only Savior.

Newsweek reported, “According to a 2008 Pew Forum survey, 65 percent of us believe that ‘many religions can lead to eternal life,’” but “76 percent of us continue to identify as Christian.”[1] What kind of “Christianity” denies the very Christ for whom it is named?

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KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; catholic; christian; christianheritage; creation; evolution; garbage; judeochristian
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1 posted on 08/28/2009 8:53:45 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

With a heavy heart...ping.


2 posted on 08/28/2009 8:54:39 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Too see a big reason for this decline


3 posted on 08/28/2009 9:01:50 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: GodGunsGuts

And the effect is evident........


4 posted on 08/28/2009 9:07:47 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: GodGunsGuts

It is entirely possible to be a good Christian and accept the possibility of Evolution.

We should NOT be forced into an “either / OR” decision.


5 posted on 08/28/2009 9:09:13 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


6 posted on 08/28/2009 9:11:17 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Kansas58

Exactly right...Christianity and evolution are compatible.


7 posted on 08/28/2009 9:11:26 AM PDT by Tax Government
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To: GodGunsGuts
Biblical doctrines and the broad doctrines of evolution are mutually exclusive. In order to accept evolution, biblical truth must be denied.

If evolution is true, then we must view the story of the Garden of Eden and original sin as nothing more than allegory. This viewpoint, however, severely undermines the significance of Christ's sinless life and sacrificial death on the cross because the Bible presents Jesus as analogous to Adam.

8 posted on 08/28/2009 9:21:38 AM PDT by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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To: GodGunsGuts
Fools deny Him.

Evolution is a big part of the denial. It's banged into the heads of your kids. They can't explain the “big bang” but that doesn't matter. They tell your kids it took millions and millions of years for humans to “evolve”. The Bible states six, 24 hour days were needed to create all we see and don't see and humans existed with dinos. The Bible doesn't endorse any kind of evolution unless you want to believe the “image” of God is that of an animal that “evolved”.

Of course the Judeo Christian God is no animal and never “evolved”. He always was and always will be. He is God and we are not. Would you prefer a God that you can trump intellectually> Or have your God be superior to you - intellectually and otherwise?

This stuff is what makes kids atheists. There is no tolerance for God. Anyone who believes in evolution and what I briefly mentioned is rejecting God and calling him a liar. Yes, it might make a few feel bad. They'd like to believe in God - cafeteria style but it doesn't work like that. You can't accept some of it and reject other parts. I hope you don't find out the hard way ... that I am right in what I state.

2Thes.2:11

[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Yes they are lying and people re believing them.

Bible based Christianity is INCLUSIVE but the teachings are EXCLUSIVE. Something is either TRUE or FALSE.

Rom.12:2

[2] And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Many are being conformed to this world. It's easier. They are cowards. They "fit in" better. They are LAZY. They don't want to dig our objective scientific facts to defend Him. Heck, if you don't defend Him, WHY should be KNOW YOU or look out for you? He won't.

When you deny Him, why wouldn't Christ deny you?

He is warning you:

Matt.7:23

[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Laugh, ridicule me or whatever you want, I'm telling you the TRUTH. Be careful. Eternity is a long time to spend with evil people. It's a CHOICE that each individual, not the "community" or "group" will have to make.

9 posted on 08/28/2009 9:24:11 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Tax Government

You need to choose which you will serve: God or god.

Your cholce.


10 posted on 08/28/2009 9:24:52 AM PDT by panzerkampfwagen
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To: Kansas58
It is entirely possible to be a good Christian and accept the possibility of Evolution.

We should NOT be forced into an “either / OR” decision.


FALSE!

God stated what He did.

You either believe Him or you believe imperfect people that openly DENY Him.

You are not “forced” into believing in Him.

It is a CHOICE!

Evolution is NOT Christian.

It never has been Christian and it never will be Christian.

Sure call me names. Call me “intolerant.

It doesn't matter. It leaves me rolling my eyes in amusement when others do that. Name calling will never change His truth. It is a “either/or” decision. EITHER you believe Him and what is stated in the Bible OR you do not. It's that simple and straight forward. Luke warm people will be spit out of His mouth. He clearly lays out where He is coming from:

Rev.3:16

[16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

You do Christians a disservice by suggesting to be a fence sitter is okay with God. It is NOT okay with God. Compassion is not about COMPROMISE on PRICIPLES. Surely you have seen that fail in the secular political world. Well, it works the same way in the world of Christianity - regardless of how you “feel” about it.

11 posted on 08/28/2009 9:31:42 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: panzerkampfwagen

You need to choose which you will serve: God or god.

Your cholce.


Exactly!

It’s an INDIVIDUAL choice.


12 posted on 08/28/2009 9:32:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: panzerkampfwagen

I’ll serve the bigger one.


13 posted on 08/28/2009 9:32:45 AM PDT by Tax Government
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To: nmh

That’s right. We need to STAND UP and SPEAK BOLDLY! SILENT NO MORE. SILENCE IS CONSENT.


14 posted on 08/28/2009 9:35:51 AM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: nmh
LOL
Sorry, you are wrong.
You do not understand what you are reading or quoting.

It is entirely possible to believe in BOTH Evolution and Christianity.

IMHO, God will laugh at the nuts on both sides of this stupid argument, when your times comes, you will see that HE does have a sense of humor.

15 posted on 08/28/2009 9:36:24 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GodGunsGuts

This is a nonsense article. Evolutionary principles are not incompatible with christianity. That is like saying double entry accounting is incompatible with christianity.

Seems you can have entirely 2000 years consistent christianity without the political creationism debate.


16 posted on 08/28/2009 9:37:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GodGunsGuts

If “Christian” means that you believe that Man walked the Earth at the same time as dinosaurs........then we are most certainly not a “Christian nation.”


17 posted on 08/28/2009 9:40:18 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with vegetarian T. rex within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: nmh

Every SINGLE person who authored, edited, or compiled the various books of the Bible was Human and subject to Human error.

More to the point, if you were to try and make the point, to uneducated, illiterate tribal people, that God created Heaven and Earth, and Man, and try hard, to make that statement, with as few scientific conflicts as possible, yet still make your work understandable to such folks, before anyone understood cell structure, DNA or anything about modern science -—

You would be hard pressed to do a better job than Genesis.

It is rather egotistical for any of us to believe that was was written, centuries ago, was meant only for our eyes.

The audience at the time must be taken into account.

If you do not have the faith to believe that all things are possible with God, it is your faith which is weak, not mine.


18 posted on 08/28/2009 9:42:18 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Tax Government; Kansas58

Only if God lied when He told us....

Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Gen 2:19 Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name.


19 posted on 08/28/2009 9:45:40 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Your post proves nothing.

If you wanted to explain cell structure, DNA and biology to ancient people, what smaller particle could they understand, than “dust”??

And, why do nuts on the right get outraged over the idea that evolution says that “man came from slime” -—

When nuts on the right have no problem with the idea that man came from “dust”???

Look up “dust” would you please?

House dust is dust mite poop.

“Humas” is the decayed vegetable and animal matter that makes for fertile soil.

And “Breathed Life” is a Biblical phrase that does not require a literal interpretation.

It amazes me that Biblical literalists, who avoid or ignore quotes like:

“This is my body, this is my Blood”

“Do this in memory of me”

“Peter, you are rock, and upon this rock I will build my Church” -—

and -— who ignore the fact that Jesus drank alcohol, in the form of WINE -—

Try to force the stupid idea on us that all of Genesis must be taken literally.

More to the point:

GOD DOES NOT GIVE A RIP ABOUT ANY OF OUR OPINIONS ON THIS MATTER!

20 posted on 08/28/2009 9:52:12 AM PDT by Kansas58
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