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Catholicism Was Comfort, Conflict For Kennedy
APReport ^ | August 28, 2009

Posted on 08/28/2009 11:28:24 AM PDT by Steelfish

Catholicism was comfort, conflict for Kennedy

His stance on abortion and divorce from wife Joan defied church teachings

BOSTON - Sen. Edward Kennedy was raised from birth to cherish his Catholicism, and it became both a source of comfort and conflict throughout his life.

The son of the country's most famous Catholic family defied church teachings when he divorced his first wife, then was granted an annulment only after he admitted he wasn't being honest when he promised her he'd be faithful. His most significant and public break with the church came with his support for abortion rights.

Yet Kennedy also advocated for signature Catholic causes, such as help for the poor, health care and immigration reform, and opposition to the Iraq war. His faith remained a regular part of his life until it ended this week with a priest at his bedside.

The apparently conflicting portrait of a man loyal to the church despite widening disagreement on key issues "almost perfectly represents" the views of most American Catholics, said Boston College professor Alan Wolfe.

"He's an effect of a process that's been going on for a very long time that started long before Teddy Kennedy was born and will continue long after Teddy Kennedy is dead," Wolfe said.

Kennedy's mother, Rose Kennedy, set the roots of his faith, emphasizing Christ's teaching in the Gospels that "to whom much is given, much will be required." When her kids were teens, she made sure they went to a weekend religious camp every year, even if they'd rather be sailing, said Adam Clymer, who worked with Kennedy on his biography. She took them to church during the week, so they knew church wasn't just for Sundays.

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In his eulogy during her 1995 funeral, Kennedy called his mother's faith "the greatest gift she gave us."

A commitment to Catholicism was not always evident in Kennedy's personal life, which was marred by problems with alcohol and philandering. In 1983, he was forbidden from receiving communion after his divorce — which the church forbids — from his first wife, Joan.

The public learned more than a decade later that he'd been granted an annulment after he was seen accepting Communion at his mother's funeral. Joan later said that Kennedy requested the annulment, which she did not oppose, on grounds that his marriage vow to be faithful had not been honestly made, Clymer said.

Kennedy never discussed his annulment and also rarely spoke publicly of his Catholicism.

"I think faith oftentimes is deeply felt in the marrow of your bones, it's a matter of the heart," said Kennedy's friend, the Rev. Gerry Creedon, a Washington-area priest. "He had trouble articulating his inner feelings, his deepest conviction and matters of emotion, the heart."

One of Kennedy's longest discussions of his faith came in 1983 in an unlikely place — political foe Jerry Falwell's Liberty University:

"I am an American and a Catholic; I love my country and treasure my faith," Kennedy said. "But I do not assume that my conception of patriotism or policy is invariably correct, or that my convictions about religion should command any greater respect than any other faith in this pluralistic society. I believe there surely is such a thing as truth, but who among us can claim a monopoly on it?"

"I believe there surely is such a thing as truth, but who among us can claim a monopoly on it?"

Does this mean that Kennedy did not believe the Nicene Creed? _______________________________________________________________________ +Nicene Creed+

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Through Him all things were made. For us men and our salvation He came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary , and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures: He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son, He is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen. _______________________________________________________________________

1 posted on 08/28/2009 11:28:24 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

I hope I’m wrong, but most likely Sen. Kennedy had disdain for his Catholic faith.

A Catholic politician who encourages abortion? Divorce (secondary to abortion) and unbridled arrogance? Left a girl for dead in a car? Embraced the power of the state to the detriment of ordinary Americans? These aren’t Catholic positions.

A life of excessive privilege is the best way to describe Ted Kennedy.

I hope I’m wrong and he’s resting in peace. Or embraced by St. Peter.


2 posted on 08/28/2009 11:32:00 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: Steelfish

Because he didn’t believe any of the Church’s teachings?


3 posted on 08/28/2009 11:32:40 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Steelfish

The simple truth is this: You cannot be both a good Catholic and a good Democrat. That is the problem.


4 posted on 08/28/2009 11:32:45 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Steelfish
"...When her kids were teens, she made sure they went to a weekend religious camp every year..."

It didn't take.

5 posted on 08/28/2009 11:32:55 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Steelfish

BS.

It was never more than a vote-retainer for Kennedy. Gave him a tamed Mass. output, which he maintained by forever pollishing the wax job JFK, his dad, and RFK left him. Without the compliant “brainwashed” media?

He’d be nothing.


6 posted on 08/28/2009 11:33:02 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Steelfish
Duplicate Post: Kennedy's Catholicism Source of Comfort, Conflict
7 posted on 08/28/2009 11:35:38 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Steelfish

Where’s the projectile vomit warning?


8 posted on 08/28/2009 11:36:12 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Ted Kennedy was Fredo Corleone without the endearing qualities.)
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To: Steelfish
I don't know anything about his faith, or what went on between he and his confessors, or the heirerarchy of the Boston Archdiocese.

But I do know this: it's hard to find something as destructive to moral society than an apostate Catholic in a position of power and authority.

Consider one person's take on Kennedy's legacy.

In my opinion, the Church dropped the ball on apostate politicians and America has suffered tremendously as a result.

9 posted on 08/28/2009 11:36:58 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: BertWheeler
I have a question (I am not a Catholic). A headline on the Drudge Reports states something to the effect of: Pope silent on Kennedy. My question is - why would the Pope comment? It seems to me Kennedy mocked the Church in the way he lived his life. Is it common for the Pope to comment on the death of Catholic senators? Just wonderin. Thank you.
10 posted on 08/28/2009 11:38:47 AM PDT by zlala
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To: Steelfish
His support of the Democrat's abandonment of the South Vietnamese, who were left to the tender mercies of Communist?

Most of the Vietnamese refugess I've met were Catholic....

11 posted on 08/28/2009 11:38:54 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Welcome2thejungle
Pretty much it ~ you can't be a good Jews, a good Protestant, a good Buddhist, a good Hindu, a good Jain, a good Pentecostal, a good...... you name it ~ you simply cannot adhere to any standard of morality or to a religion and be a Democrat.

It's a line they've drawn in the sand.

God does not hear the prayers of Democrats.

12 posted on 08/28/2009 11:42:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: zlala

I don’t rightly know myself. The Pope often makes public comments on the passing of a public official. When Barack Obama visited the Pope a few months ago, he discretely took a letter from Ted Kennedy and delivered it to the Pope.

Catholics often ask for intercessionary prayers from either a priest, bishop or Pope. The Bible did say that what Peter holds locked on Earth will remain locked in Heaven. That’s why St. Peter is always shown in artwork and stained glass as holding keys - the Keys to the Kingdom. Protestants, of course, take a different view but it’s what Kennedy may have pleaded for in that letter that is of historical value.

Who knows? Maybe some day in the 26th century, Ted Kennedy’s letter will be on review at some Vatican library.


13 posted on 08/28/2009 11:42:27 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: BertWheeler
Thank you for your answer. I had forgotten about the letter he sent w/Obama. If I were him, I'd certainly have pleaded for forgiveness from the Pope. However, I would like to think I would have had a public change of heart & policy to go along with the plea - to show I was sincere. Thanks again.
14 posted on 08/28/2009 11:46:47 AM PDT by zlala
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To: Steelfish
"I believe there surely is such a thing as truth, but who among us can claim a monopoly on it?"

A statement like that is hardly worthy of a village idiot.

15 posted on 08/28/2009 11:49:17 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: the invisib1e hand
In my opinion, the Church dropped the ball on apostate politicians and America has suffered tremendously as a result.

Catholics are actually becoming less liberal, it was far worse in generations before.

16 posted on 08/28/2009 11:51:08 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Catholics are actually becoming less liberal, it was far worse in generations before.

Well, closing the barn door after the horse is out is probably better than not closing it at all.

17 posted on 08/28/2009 11:53:59 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Steelfish

no one is ever refused Communion because they are divorced, as the Church does not recognize civil divorce and considers the person to still be married

the obstinant and public sin that makes one ineligible to recive Communion is marrying the second person without first receiving a declaration from the Church (annulment) that the first marriage was never a sacramental marriage because there was some impediment (such falsely vowing to be faithful when you know you don’t plan to be faithful)


18 posted on 08/28/2009 12:04:05 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Wer glaubt ist nie allein. Who believes is never alone.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

This country will never recover but we can slow the damage and reverse a little of it if we can pull the Catholics out of the democrat column.

Imagine how different the political landscape would be if republicans could start counting on the majority of the Catholic vote, it would be the end of liberalism as we know it.


19 posted on 08/28/2009 12:12:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Steelfish
"Sen. Edward Kennedy was raised from birth to cherish his Catholicism, and it became both a source of comfort and conflict throughout his life."

BARF!! What a load of horse KaKa.

20 posted on 08/28/2009 12:13:44 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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