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Video: “This used to be America!” “It ain’t no more, okay?” (police of
hotair ^ | aug 28 2009 | Allahpundit

Posted on 08/28/2009 5:28:07 PM PDT by blueyon

Lots of outrageously outraged e-mails flowing in about this, although it’s interesting to me mainly as a First Amendment curio. The footage comes from Jim Moran’s health-care town hall on Tuesday night. The question: Can a congressman bar signs, or certain types of signs, from an event at which he’s speaking? The answer (and the ambiguity) turns, I assume, on whether the event is “public” or “private.” It’s a public school and Moran is very much a public official, but recall that Claire McCaskill evidently got away with imposing a “no signs” policy at her own town hall where the incident with the Rosa Parks poster happened. That makes me think either there’s some sort of public/private wrinkle to these meetings that we’re missing or that banning signs is valid as a “time, place, or manner” restriction on certain forms of speech. But if that’s so, why does the guard here seem to distinguish between signs with images on them and signs that are text-only? Help me, constitutional scholars and law-school grads, you’re my only hope!


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I posted this video was posted today http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2326805/posts?q=1&;page=1#1 Hotair makes worth repeating at they have an interesting take on it.
1 posted on 08/28/2009 5:28:07 PM PDT by blueyon
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To: blueyon

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2326805/posts?q=1&;page=1#1


2 posted on 08/28/2009 5:28:46 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: blueyon

Time to email the local police chief and demand an answer.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/contact/MailForm.aspx?agId=2065


3 posted on 08/28/2009 5:31:06 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: blueyon

Dayum! That video ought to REALLY GO VIRAL NATIONWIDE AND WORLDWIDE.


4 posted on 08/28/2009 5:32:04 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (When reality hits us that it's not "Incompetence" but rather "Intentional", what are we going to do?)
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To: blueyon

I’m sorry, I’m a little slow today ;-)


5 posted on 08/28/2009 5:32:32 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: bergmeid
EAGLES UP! THIS ONE IS REALLY TAILOR MADE FOR A MASSIVE INTERNET "FREEP". Wow!!!

FOLKS< SEE THE VIDEO HERE!!

6 posted on 08/28/2009 5:33:05 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (When reality hits us that it's not "Incompetence" but rather "Intentional", what are we going to do?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

working on it, facebooked, lots of folks sending to Drudge, Beck etc. Please keep sending to EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!!! And keep sending to Drudge!!! If we all work together we can get this out there!


7 posted on 08/28/2009 5:34:21 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: blueyon
It begs the question, if the senators and congress folks are now claiming these healthcare townhalls are PRIVATE functions, then why are PUBLIC “police officers” funded by the taxpayers providing the security for them?
8 posted on 08/28/2009 5:35:37 PM PDT by apillar
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To: blueyon

Youtubed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIKPKjl0-pg


9 posted on 08/28/2009 5:40:13 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies. Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: blueyon

If this was done at a public school; etc, the taxpayers pay for those and should be entitled to bring their signs.


10 posted on 08/28/2009 5:44:46 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: blueyon

Guy: This is America

Cop: It ain’t no more Okay

Unbelievable. That’s one cop the needs to be off the streets.


11 posted on 08/28/2009 5:45:19 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: bergmeid

They took down their website?


12 posted on 08/28/2009 5:49:04 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Domandred

So, one more LEO now id’d as a member of the Obambi thugocracy, no doubt hoping to advance to JBT status.


13 posted on 08/28/2009 5:51:45 PM PDT by Czar (Life Member -- NRA)
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To: KSCITYBOY

no, it is still up as far as I can see.


14 posted on 08/28/2009 5:54:36 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: Czar

Awesome - keep this one going...


15 posted on 08/28/2009 5:55:44 PM PDT by sscoots969
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To: Domandred

need to get this on becks show before its pulled


16 posted on 08/28/2009 5:56:49 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: blueyon

Gen-u-ine Legal Translation (really):

Protestor: “This is [the] America [of the original Constitution].”

Cop: “It ain’t no more [since 14th Amendment administrative jurisdictional limitation of privileges to your corporate person are now being presumed against you by my corporate police powers]. Okay?”


17 posted on 08/28/2009 6:03:28 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: blueyon

Wesley Cheeks is out of control. Contrary to his belief, we are not living in czarist Amerika. That thought is way over his head.


18 posted on 08/28/2009 6:03:46 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Domandred

The black “cop” is a RACIST and chose to support obozo over the Constitution. This is wahr!!!!


19 posted on 08/28/2009 6:04:21 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: blueyon

So, was the cop justified, by law, to do what he did, or not?

I would like to know for future events.


20 posted on 08/28/2009 6:08:56 PM PDT by Boucheau ("Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism." - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: KSCITYBOY

I sent an email. there must be another email address for the Chief or council members.


21 posted on 08/28/2009 6:10:13 PM PDT by healy61
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To: blueyon

I think I would have pressed the matter and call his bluff!


22 posted on 08/28/2009 6:11:57 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: blueyon
Be sure to send this to Glenn Beck at his TV show. This week he asked for videos like this.


23 posted on 08/28/2009 6:13:14 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: blueyon
The cop seemed to be saying that other signs being pointed out were OK but the sign the guy was holding was not because it had a picture on it. What???


24 posted on 08/28/2009 6:16:46 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: blueyon

I did see this video earlier. This guy is going to be in some trouble. A lawsuit should be in the offing.


25 posted on 08/28/2009 6:18:01 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Cinnamontea

I am still trying to figure out how he could get charged with traspassing because of his sign.


26 posted on 08/28/2009 6:18:29 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Boucheau

No...he was not. Unless the city where that townhall was being held can show a statute that forbids signs(picture or not) on school grounds(which is ridiculous..schools have signs for athletics, etc. all the time)..then the school district and the city can be sued.


27 posted on 08/28/2009 6:19:32 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

Breaking news?

Not sure, but this is heady stuff.


28 posted on 08/28/2009 6:20:00 PM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: blueyon; Jeff Head

This is the sign. Note the source attribution at the bottom.

29 posted on 08/28/2009 6:22:16 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: mware

I find that particular picture of Obama menacing. That said, freedom of speech by the first amendment is at it’s “zenith” when it comes to political speech. That, Wesley, is the Supreme Court’s words. And it still is America.


30 posted on 08/28/2009 6:22:16 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Cinnamontea

You should know that one picture of Obama is worth
at least ONE TRILLION WORDS.


31 posted on 08/28/2009 6:22:41 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: AAABEST; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator

I agree... Saw the video earlier and passed it to everyone I could. Would like to see some follow up on it as well.


32 posted on 08/28/2009 6:23:50 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: blueyon

First thing I did was Facebook it!


33 posted on 08/28/2009 6:24:58 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: healy61
I will speak my mind.

This is still America.

I am not a mob

34 posted on 08/28/2009 6:25:32 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: blueyon

(per Wikipedia for the United States)
———Race/Ethnicity (2008)————
White................................................79.8% <<<
African American.............................12.8% <<<
Asian American.................................4.5%
Native American/Alaskan Native......1.0%
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander.....0.2%
Multiracial........................................1.7%
Hispanic (of any race).....................15.4%


35 posted on 08/28/2009 6:25:56 PM PDT by moovova (More coffee please...make it a double.)
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To: blueyon

Hey, maybe it’s a muslim thang. They don’t approve of images.


36 posted on 08/28/2009 6:36:21 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: supremedoctrine

You should know that one picture of Obama is worth
at least ONE TRILLION WORDS.

___________________________________________

BEFORE the ‘uhhhhhhs, ‘let me be clears’, and ‘aaaaaands’ are even added! ;-)


37 posted on 08/28/2009 6:41:00 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell)
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To: blueyon
I wish he'd held it back up and gotten thrown off the property or charged -- he'd own the freaking city and I would litigate that officer in to freaking extinction. The response should have been "Think you have it bad now communist? Make my day."

Somebody needs to freaking educate these morons on how many millions have been killed by this road we're on. How horrible it is and how desperate all those under it have been to get out from under it. We won WWII but not through attrition of human lives like the communists where they would send 100,000 men in to the lines with 20,000 guns, we did it through skill, determination and strength of character. We won't lose this war.

38 posted on 08/28/2009 6:42:21 PM PDT by Naspino (Not creative enough to have a tagline.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

39 posted on 08/28/2009 6:42:40 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress

LOL!


40 posted on 08/28/2009 6:47:28 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: eyedigress

Anyone think obozo will say the cop “acted stupidly”?

I didn’t think so.


41 posted on 08/28/2009 6:47:49 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: blueyon

So is this how it is? EVERYTHING from our children to our bank accounts to our Doctor visits are PUBLIC and OPEN to the government...BUT a congressman holding a townhall meeting is PRIVATE and off limits to us? FIRE THEM..we should send them millions of plastic FIRE ants.


42 posted on 08/28/2009 6:49:36 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: blueyon

Watchya wanna bet these two in the video end up at the WH for a ‘Bud’ (for propaganda purposes, of course).


43 posted on 08/28/2009 6:51:47 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell)
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To: moovova

Per Wiki for Fairfax County where Officer Cheeks works

72.91% White
8.83% Black or African American
0.26% Native American
13.00% Asian
0.07% Pacific Islander
4.54% from other races
3.65% from two or more races.


44 posted on 08/28/2009 7:08:47 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: concentric circles
Yep...that's mine. Apparently someon over there saw it and liked it and made a poster out of it.

The vidoe is unbelievable...the officer was (IMHO) intejecting his own political feelings and opinions of the poster into a exercise of 1st amendment rights on what appeared to be public property.

Folks should watch the video. It is indeed a poster created from my site:

It's the latest one. Really is bringing them out of the wordwork.

Cooments at the yourube site indicate that the officer is Fairfax County Public Schools Security Services.

45 posted on 08/28/2009 7:10:57 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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I saw this info posted on one of the vids. I altered at word that was VERY inappropriate. I just called the school security dispatch and and they confirm that this guy works for them. I asked if he knew about the youtube video and he said "yeah I heard about it". I thanked him and told him to get ready for the email and letters! 24-Hour Dispatch/Call Center 703-764-2400 Main Office 703-658-3760 Jim McLain, Security Coordinator 703-658-3769
46 posted on 08/28/2009 7:12:51 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell)
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To: mware
I am still trying to figure out how he could get charged with traspassing because of his sign.

I got the strong impression that trespassing is just the first thing that popped into the cop's head. The more I think about this, the angrier I get.


47 posted on 08/28/2009 7:16:13 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Excellent work!

48 posted on 08/28/2009 7:17:42 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: bergmeid

thanks for that, just blasted one off his way.


49 posted on 08/28/2009 7:19:56 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Cinnamontea

‘I’ haven’t done it, yet. I’m sorry the way I posted it ‘without paragraphs’. The individual said he/she had called them. Not I. Just putting the telephone info up here. ;-)


50 posted on 08/28/2009 7:20:24 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell)
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