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Two Belarussian pilots killed at Polish air show (video of Su 27 crash)
Reuters ^ | Sun Aug 30, 2009

Posted on 08/30/2009 12:32:08 PM PDT by lizol

Two Belarussian pilots killed at Polish air show

Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:30pm IST

RADOM, Poland (Reuters) - Two Belarussian Air Force pilots were killed on Sunday when their SU-27 fighter plane crashed during an aerial acrobatics display at an air show in central Poland, police said.

"The two pilots did not manage to catapult to safety and were killed in the crash but there were no other casualties," police spokeswoman Agnieszka Humelusz in Radom, a city about 100 km (62 miles) south of Warsaw, told Reuters.

Witness Leszek Kopec told Reuters by telephone: "The SU-27 crashed far beyond the spectator area minutes after begining its aerial performance."

Poland's news channels showed the large, heavy plane making three aerial revolutions and then levelling off as if about to land. It then disappeared from sight beyond a line of trees and exploded, sending up billows of thick, black smoke.

"The plane crashed about 100 metres (yards) from buildings in the village of Naleczyn on the outskirts of Radom," TVN24 said.

Two pilots from Poland's Zelazny Aerial Acrobatics Group were killed at the 2007 Radom show when their planes collided in midair during a performance.

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airshow; belarus; deathtoll; pilots; planecrash; poland; su27
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1 posted on 08/30/2009 12:32:09 PM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 08/30/2009 12:33:07 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Damn. Prayers for the pilots and their loved ones.


3 posted on 08/30/2009 12:34:41 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 221 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: lizol

Bummer....

The rugged durability of Russian small arms is famous in the west, but most do not know that the lifetime of their aircraft are substantially below most western models —the airframes can withstand a much lower number of hours, annually.

I don’t know that that was a factor here, however.


4 posted on 08/30/2009 12:39:29 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: lizol

Looks like controlled flight into terrain.


5 posted on 08/30/2009 12:45:51 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: lizol

Can an aviation expert tell me at about what point in the video were they in big trouble? 50 seconds into the video or so?


6 posted on 08/30/2009 12:46:29 PM PDT by library user
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To: gaijin

Russian engineering is almost exclusively limited to their small arms. If its more complicated than an AK, expect it to fail. Period.


7 posted on 08/30/2009 12:48:19 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: lizol

Wasn’t their another similar crash awhile ago at the Polish Air Show?


8 posted on 08/30/2009 12:49:18 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Ping!


9 posted on 08/30/2009 12:52:05 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: library user

Looks like during the stall at the 50 second mark, they were unable to recover for some reason and just fell flat into the ground.


10 posted on 08/30/2009 12:52:53 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: lizol

Same type crash of SU-27 at Paris airshow 1999

Pilots ejected

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXmMx


11 posted on 08/30/2009 12:59:22 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Crazieman
That's not true. The Russians have always designed and built fine, functional aircraft using what limited resources are available in that country. Their pilots though tend to be more reckless than ours and prone to take more risks though.

Making of a Sukhoi Su-30 Flanker


12 posted on 08/30/2009 1:02:23 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: library user

They were in trouble at :55 into this (or a little sooner). They appeared to realize this (that they had insufficient altitude to recover from the loop) at :59 when they pulled the nose up hard putting the jet into a full stall with a subsequent crash. Their rate of descent at the point where thy pulled the nose up was probably to high to afford a safe ejection (out of the safe envelope).


13 posted on 08/30/2009 1:02:49 PM PDT by monkeypants (Go MAC!)
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To: Crazieman
Russian engineering is almost exclusively limited to their small arms. If its more complicated than an AK, expect it to fail. Period.

This didn't look like equipment failure.

14 posted on 08/30/2009 1:03:27 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater

Most likely 100% pilot error unless they had engine failure coming out of the overhead maneuver. If the engines had failed, the pilots would likely have initiated an ejection prior to putting the aircraft into a full stall.


15 posted on 08/30/2009 1:05:43 PM PDT by monkeypants (Go MAC!)
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To: Westlander
There was one, 2 years ago, but hardly similar to this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGpoy6BARI0
16 posted on 08/30/2009 1:06:50 PM PDT by lizol
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To: Crazieman

Not true, the Russians have some fine engineering, it is manufacturing that they aren’t all that great at. That is why they usually design their things to be ugly but tough (AK-47, Soyuz). Besides, this looked like a piloting error.


17 posted on 08/30/2009 1:07:28 PM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: lizol

Sorry wrong link

Su-30MKI crash at Paris Air Show Le Bourget 1999
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18 posted on 08/30/2009 1:08:16 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: lizol

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds, — and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of — wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there,
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air. . . .

Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or ever eagle flew —
And, while with silent, lifting mind I’ve trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

— John Gillespie Magee, Jr


19 posted on 08/30/2009 1:09:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Rooivalk

This should be the correct link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh-kuztsE1s


20 posted on 08/30/2009 1:11:06 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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