Posted on 08/31/2009 6:46:31 AM PDT by kellynla
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Firefighters tried Monday to hold back a massive wildfire from consuming thousands of Los Angeles-area homes and a crucial communications center as they mourned two firefighters killed when their vehicle rolled down a mountain.
About 12,000 homes, as well as communications and astronomy centers atop Mount Wilson, were threatened by fire. At least 6,600 homes were under mandatory evacuation orders Sunday night and over 2,500 firefighters were battling the flames. On the blaze's northwestern front, two firefighters were killed Sunday on Mount Gleason near the city of Acton.
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Yep. Depends on if you want it handled the easy way or the hard way.
Isn’t this what the statists want: depopulate swaths of rural and suburban areas and either move the inhabitants into inner city high rises or terminate them via Death Care? They talk about using bulldozers... but fires work just as well.
Sheesh, I really don't know. Until I saw a couple of posts about that on these wildfire threads, I'd never heard of it.
I do know that years back in LA, you would get cited by the county if you let dry brush or tinder accumulate on your property. Especially in rural or hillside areas.
My reaction is the same as yours. I'll be damned if I'm going to put my family or my property in jeopardy because of some ridiculous "green" ordinance.
“Compound that with the enviros that won’t allow brush clearing or other common sense fire abatement measures and that’s why this scenario plays out year after year across the West.
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Don’t lump Colorado in with the whackjobs of Kali. We allow and even demand fire abatement measures to include cutting anything and everything around structures.
We, of course, have many who do not protect their buildings from fire and their homes and buildings burn but that is called “freedom”; they are free not to and without complaint from any of us. It is not our property. We’ll help save their property and even help them rebuild because that is what living in forested areas is about.
“Don’t lump Colorado in with the whackjobs of Kali. We allow and even demand fire abatement measures to include cutting anything and everything around structures.”
Yeaaaaaaaaa...you do a bang-up job in CO...
Hayman Fire Disaster - Pike National Forest, Colorado - June, 2002
“The premiere fire that year was the Hayman which burned 138,000 acres and 133 homes in 20 days. It still holds the record for being Colorado’s largest wildfire ever. Most of the fire (72%) stayed on the Pike National Forest south and west of Denver and northwest of Colorado Springs, Colorado. Enough fire escaped national forest lands to cause significant private damage.”
And don’t bother to ask how many CALIFORNIA FIREFIGHTERS VOLUNTEERED TO GO TO COLORADO AND WENT TO FIGHT THE HAYMAN FIRE!
“Don’t lump Colorado in with the whackjobs of Kali.”
Or how ‘bout these...
“6,500 acre wildfire that broke out near Colorado Springs on March 3, 2009”
“Wildfires broke out in Boulder County, Colorado, on the afternoon of January 7, 2009”
“On April 15, 2008, wildfires in Colorado caused the evacuation of the towns of Ordway and Carbondale, as well as a voluntary evacuation of Fort Carson. Three people died in the fires.”
I suggest you keep your “Kali” wise ass remarks to yourself.
It was all hype by the news geeks.
In this particular fire, Mt. Wilson repeaters and transmission towers were never in any real danger, because that area is pretty small and easy to defend from the air. They ringed the entire area in fire retardant long before the flames ever got near it. But it made for great news on TV.
Think of it like one house in the middle of a forest. If you devote much of your resources to protect that one spot, you’ll very likely succeed.
You’re reading my mind with that response and you saved me from typing that myself.
A lot of people who had evacuated the Lake Arrowhead/Big Bear areas came down to the LBC to stay. I recall sitting in a Starbucks and listening to a woman talking on her cell phone - an evacuee sitting there with her two dogs - and she was b!tching about how all the fires were George Bush's fault because he wouldn't allow the forest service to clear the trees that had died from the Bark Beetle infestation. Ahem - "Hi, stupid lady? THE SIERRA CLUB IS YOUR PROBLEM, not the President. Why don't you blame them? Idiot." And I walked away.
As far as I know, the Sierra Club has not backed down and there is still plenty of dead fuel all over the Southwest. New Mexico is primed for a bad fire season, too. Lots of dead trees out there from Bark Beetle that have not been cleared.
Yea, well I get very tired of these out-of-state clowns coming on CA threads with their stupid remarks...like THEIR states NEVER have disasters...why hell if not for CA and other state Firefighters VOLUNTEERING to go elsewhere like Colorado to fight THEIR fires, Colorado would look like a briquette today!
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-tivid-livestream-b,0,1174195.tividlivestream
WATCH LIVE: KTLA Sky 5 Over Yucaipa Fire
Thanks we’re monitoring Internet, radio, TV & phones here.
Prayers up!
I’m listening to the scanner from here in northern California. Hoping and praying for you all.
It sounds like it more than doubled yesterday.
Our very scary fire is ok, now...although we lost 60 houses and commercial buildings.
Well, until you can control wether or not we have drought, and the humidity, and the temperature....But thanks for the help.
Any excuse to bad mouth California...
Most of these people are just jealous of Cal or plain ignorant.
What some of these people don't realize, is California has some of the best, most highly trained rescue teams, law enforcement, and firefighters in the *world*.
As you pointed out, in Katrina, New Orleans, Hurricane Ike, 911 terrorist attacks in New York, Oklahoma City bombing etc, etc Californians were requested and were right there helping out the folks in other states.
We do this all the time.
Thank you both for your prayers.
“As you pointed out, in Katrina, New Orleans, Hurricane Ike, 911 terrorist attacks in New York, Oklahoma City bombing etc, etc Californians were requested and were right there helping out the folks in other states.”
Thank you!
My grandfather was a Fire Captain and he & I never asked “what state is on fire?” as if it made any difference.
If there is a fire and they need help, YOU GO!
ROFL!
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