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Born in USA ? : Official Obama story continues to unravel
Hot Air ^ | SEPTEMBER 1, 2009 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 09/01/2009 6:10:29 PM PDT by RobinMasters

WND has found new evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham, President Obama's mother, was in Seattle in August 1961, within days of her son's birth, contrary to the accepted narrative.

In a video that has been removed from the Internet since the 2008 presidential campaign, Susan Blake, a high school friend of Obama's mother, gave an interview in which she discussed seeing Dunham shortly after Barack Obama Jr.'s Aug. 4, 1961, birth.

The video can be seen here:

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate
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To: Josephat
The video has been removed from the WND site.

It plays fine for me. Possibly earlier in the evening the server was overloaded?

101 posted on 09/01/2009 10:53:12 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks

Lots of good stuff here. Fred always finds such good information! Nice job.


102 posted on 09/01/2009 10:54:20 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: nufsed; LucyT

LOL! It’s so nice to know we are not the only ones having exactly the same problems. I felt so much better after I read it, headache and all.


103 posted on 09/01/2009 10:55:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: mojitojoe

Poor WIKI-bots...see how they argue with each other? Trying to make the pieces fit for their little scumbag hero, and just when it looks like they are getting somewhere, WHOOPS! another lie derails them. I love it!

Specially the comment where they finally concede that they cannot write about Stanley Ann in combination with her ‘husbands’ because the dates don’t allow them to. HAHA!

Best medicine I’ve taken for weeks.


104 posted on 09/01/2009 11:02:31 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: MHGinTN
How about born in Canada.

Good. That opens the door. It could have been anywhere.

Stanley Ann could have driven back and forth (driven by a friend, most likely) between Canada and Seattle area, preparing for what she would do after Barry was born.

Now let's allow here for the slip Susan Blake made, about receiving a post-card from a ship, in February 1961.

I don’t think her mother or father wanted her showing in Hawaii without a husband, so it may have been a faux marriage claim to Barak sr.

Remembering that no one besides Neil Abercrombie saw the happy couple together in Hawaii, a faux marriage to cover for the true -hidden- paternity is very likely.

and nothing more done about it until she came back to Hawaii with little Barry and obtained a divorce from Barak sr for purposes of wealfare roles, etc.

she couldn't come back to Hawaii before obama sr left the island - because then they would have been expected to live together! A sham marriage in name is one one thing, having to share premises and act like husband wife is another! IMO they were STRANGERS!

She certainly knew how to lie boldly, applying for and receiving a divorce claiming she had lived with Barak sr when she was in Washington State all that time.

probably applied for the divorce with a sham certificate of marriage and a forged kenyan birth certificate so that she could get custody!

I’m betting Madelyn applied for and received the CoLB for her grandchild with little difficulty in Hawaii of that time. The marriage ploy may not have even started until 1962 or 1963 when Stanley anticipated returning to Hawaii. The first registry in Hawaii may not have occurred until ‘62 or ‘63.

YOU GOT IT!

105 posted on 09/01/2009 11:17:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for the link...I think. That really hurt. I had to start skimming faster otherwise I’d start drinking again. An article about Stanley Ann Dunham by leftist browbeating ‘consensus’.


106 posted on 09/01/2009 11:43:02 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: MHGinTN
I’m betting Madelyn applied for and received the CoLB for her grandchild with little difficulty in Hawaii of that time

I imagine it would have been a Certificate of live birth, but for a "home birth". The CoLB (Certification) is nothing more than an abstract of the information, some of it, included on the the original Certificate (be it of Live Birth, Hawaiian Birth, or delayed birth)

107 posted on 09/01/2009 11:43:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: kabumpo
he looks exactly like his maternal grandfather, ears and all.Ears, chin, hairline, even eyes, except for color, pretty much the same as Grandpa Dunham. Any guy with some Negro ancestry could have been his father. Wouldn't even have needed to be Negro. Some Pacific Islanders are pretty dark as well, as are Australian Aborigines and some India Indians,

Of course none are as truly "Black" as a college friend of mine who was from Nigeria. I'm talking obsidian or pitch, not the dark chocolate color of most 'negro' people.

108 posted on 09/01/2009 11:53:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

I always appreciate the detail in your replies, so don’t get me wrong when I say;

I don’t believe a word of what I am supposed to believe...

I don’t believe a word that Toutonghi woman had to say. The Polk Directory entries are, as far as I can see, as valid as the ‘birth announcements’ in the Hawaii newspapers. We have no idea what time period the entries in Polk, either Hawaii or Seattle relate to, they could be entries ‘of convenience’ - made at a time when it suited the protagonists to be seen to be somewhere, where they were not.

Here’s a link to an interesting website, a number of letters of recommendation for obama sr, written in Hawaii in the period in question, and NOT one of them refers to obama sr having a wife and child...scroll down

http://cambodiana.org/MainreasonsofmysupportofObama.aspx


109 posted on 09/02/2009 12:10:44 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Electric Graffiti
An article about Stanley Ann Dunham by leftist browbeating ‘consensus’.

LOL! I'm seriously thinking about celebrating with a scotch and coke!

110 posted on 09/02/2009 12:20:15 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...
~ Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki?title=Talk:Ann_Dunham

Oh, my. They're driving themselves nuts trying to make sense of things.

I wonder if someone on BO's team is monitoring this wiki and will step in when things get too "warm."

111 posted on 09/02/2009 12:40:55 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont
I wonder if someone on BO's team is monitoring this wiki and will step in when things get too "warm."

That's what I was thinking, there'll be an obamabot watching this thread - and bingo! the wiki link will disappear.

112 posted on 09/02/2009 1:08:14 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki?title=Talk:Ann_Dunham

That link makes for fascinating reading for several reasons.

While purportedly highlighting the strength of Wikipedia due to corrections and editings, there certainly are a lot of judgment calls in the article.

See section on heritage for example.
Or on “Article contradicts itself regarding marriage to Obama Sr.”

Or of course on:
“Barack Obama born in Honolulu: no dispute”

It would be different if they were collectively pouring over stone documents in hieroglyphic or Demotic without having a Rosetta Stone and discussing interpretations.

But no, what we have here is a discussion on a woman, born in the 20th century, who died 14 years ago, who happens to be the mother of a President born in the the latter half of the 20th century century.

Dozens of people even on this predominantly leftist leaning site cannot agree on basic facts.

Almost everything about her is in fluid discussion. About the only thing you could assume for sure is that she was a female.

It is unfortunate that Wikipedia is often so quickly accepted as the arbiter of truth.

Potential disruptors and sockpuppets and nonBorgs are ferreted out. (Call in the Viking Kitties)

These people have a lot of time on their hands.

All in all, a fascinating glimpse into the mind of the ‘droid.

Thanks for the link, Fred and the ping, LucyT.


113 posted on 09/02/2009 4:19:55 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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To: Sparko

It would be different if they were collectively pouring over stone documents in hieroglyphic or Demotic without having a Rosetta Stone and discussing interpretations.

But no, what we have here is a discussion on a woman, born in the 20th century, who died 14 years ago, who happens to be the mother of a President born in the the latter half of the 20th century century.

Dozens of people even on this predominantly leftist leaning site cannot agree on basic facts.

Almost everything about her is in fluid discussion. About the only thing you could assume for sure is that she was a female.

BTTT.

It is absurd that even have no idea in which hospital the Kenyan Clown, the man who occupies the most important office in the world, was born in. This situation becomes more like a Tom Sharpe novel each day.

114 posted on 09/02/2009 4:35:02 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: snowsislander
It is astounding isn't it?

All navel gazing and disputing over what shoul be available in family Bibles (or Korans), public records, school and college records, hospital records, sworn statements and accounts from neighbors, and the like.

I have more factual, indisputable, AND supportable history on a little dog of mine who died 20 years ago.

115 posted on 09/02/2009 4:46:35 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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To: Fred Nerks

...Her kids and grandkids admire the Communist Russians and Malcolm X, live in places like Prague and are college professors....

interesting, do you have a source for that?
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Toutonghi is a rather unique name.

Ask dot com is your friend, as is facebook and myspace, various social networking sites, university faculty pages, etc.

I don’t google, though it would probably give more hits than ask. I haven’t googled in three years... ever since I found out algore sat on the board! I have my principles!


116 posted on 09/02/2009 4:47:26 AM PDT by kimla
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To: RobinMasters
SAD should be referred to as his “alleged bio mother” at this point.
117 posted on 09/02/2009 4:48:42 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: kimla

If you read the interview from the Toutonghi woman, she says her daughter turned 50 this year.

________________

I was just going over the articles and found this:

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/seattletimes/obituary.aspx?n=camille-marie-toutonghi&pid=131895025

Camille Marie TOUTONGHI 1961 ~ 2009 Loving mother of Lauren (19) and Si mone McCausland (14), passed at her home in Seattle on August 20, 2009, in the warm embrace of her family.

My condolences to Mrs. Toutonghi and her family, especially her granddaughters who will feel the loss of their mother acutely.


118 posted on 09/02/2009 5:00:39 AM PDT by kimla
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To: classified

On the video imbedded in the WND article.


119 posted on 09/02/2009 5:43:14 AM PDT by NCjim ("Lies have to be covered up, truth can run around naked." - Johnny Cash)
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To: RobinMasters

Praying, praying, praying.


120 posted on 09/02/2009 5:55:08 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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