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1 posted on 09/11/2009 7:49:31 AM PDT by SmithL
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On national television, President Barack Obama contended this week that his plan to overhaul the country's health care system wouldn't spend a single federal dime on undocumented immigrants.

To which I shout: LIAR!

Twice, in committee, the republicans wanted to add a proof of citizenship & enforcement of same into the bill. The democrats refused both times. Which leaves a bill with a bunch of words that MEAN NOTHING!

2 posted on 09/11/2009 7:54:18 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SmithL
Had he simply worn it as a badge of honor, today we'd be in the driver's seat! Unfortunately, his cowardly retreat and apology have placed us in a weakened position.

Here is what would have been EVEN better!

Wilson should have stood up and SHOUTED: "You are a liar. You are lying to the American people! And I for one am not going to sit here one second longer and listen to your prevarications!" At that he should have walked out. Today, he would be hailed as the next great voice of Conservatism and Freedom. But he didn't, and we have been weakened by his cowardice!

3 posted on 09/11/2009 7:55:30 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: SmithL

Injecting truth is “anger”


4 posted on 09/11/2009 7:55:35 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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I wonder — of the 66.1% US citizens in the chart, what fraction are US-born children of illegal aliens?


5 posted on 09/11/2009 7:56:55 AM PDT by omega4412
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Somehow we seem to have forgotten all about Bambi’s own illegal alien auntie, still enjoying welfare and bennies in Massachusetts.


7 posted on 09/11/2009 8:11:19 AM PDT by livius
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This graph shows 34% of uninsured costs come from uninsured legal and illegals using the system, in California. That is a huge percentage. One third is a large percentage, not the biggest, but it is LARGE.

If you don’t think this is a big deal, what if your rates and costs were cut by one third? Your insurance premium, one third less? The system that much less overloaded and taxed (we always hear the system’s resources are over-stretched). Would that not be a very welcome thing?


9 posted on 09/11/2009 8:17:24 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: SmithL

California is still handing out cash to illegal aliens!

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2009/08/wonder-why-california-is-broke-senior.html

(see document!)Highlights:
“California’s cash Assistance Program is for Seniors.... turned down because of their immigration status....such seniors may be able to get almost the same amount of cash as they would have through SSI”


11 posted on 09/11/2009 8:22:29 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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If the Dems have "universal" programs, they will be universal. The SCOTUS has already decided this case many times. If you put specific language in the Bill to exclude illegals, it will be struck down. Illegals WILL get whatever we get, including free school, and medical care.

IMHO, abortions would also have to be covered in any forced insurance scheme. It is either a free capitalist program, or a socialist forced program. If ALL are required to do "whatever", then ALL will be forced to submit to the rules. For us, that means covering illegals with tax money and Christians supporting abortions with their tax money. There is great moral hazard sleeping in the pages of this Bill. Think of the Catholic and other religious hospitals that will have some big decisions in the future. I think we are all myopic just looking at certain lines on a page. This will make a quantum leap of power for the socialist movement to get what they have been denied for decades. In a year or two, we will be gagging with all the bilge being shoved down our throats. From abortions to stealing organs without permission, to paying for transgendered operations, to who knows what else, will be all "in the Bill". You give up more than money in this scheme, you give up your body to the government and the czar's good judgment.

Just keep repeating, " it's for the children". We have voted for the children and elections have consequences. I see dead people from this one.

12 posted on 09/11/2009 8:23:37 AM PDT by chuckles
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Angry shout thrusts illegal immigrants into debate

Bull sh*t.

The author of this rotten garbage must have graduated from Tokyo Rose's school of propaganda.

This violent lawless invasion of illegal aliens never left the debate, and working Americans are forced to deal with this violent epic tax burden daily. The only people that ignored this are the Communist, the Democrats and Republicans. P> Those that are forced to stand behind illegal aliens in the emergency rooms, watched as they choked off our social services, jails, classrooms, schools, and crippled our hospitals never lost sight of this lawless, government sponsored invasion for a second.

All this, while our own government forces working Americans at gun point, to pay for all this lawlessness.

16 posted on 09/11/2009 8:51:46 AM PDT by dragnet2
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17 posted on 09/11/2009 9:08:00 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: SmithL

And even if they excluded illegals from this socialist healthcare bill they`d still get free healthcare if they presented to a hospital, read this http://www.aaem.org/emtala/


18 posted on 09/11/2009 9:28:58 AM PDT by nomad
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.... health officials worry that denying health care to undocumented immigrants could have costly consequences to public health, particularly in controlling communicable diseases, such as tuberculosis and H1N1 flu. ....

D'oh?! Kind of stupid even to reply to something like that statement. The answer stares 'em right in face yet they just keep on denying it. Deport! Deport! Deport! Deport! Deport! Deport! Deport!

20 posted on 09/11/2009 10:05:25 AM PDT by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, Guns, Guts and Garden,)
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The problem is people being treated are not usually asked their citizenship- at least around here they aren’t. I wonder how they arrived at these figures if they don’t ask?


21 posted on 09/11/2009 11:09:18 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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Few dispute that undocumented immigrants pose some financial drain on the nation's health care system, but some experts say the extent of that cost has been wildly exaggerated.

I don't care what some "experts" say. Those "experts" don't count anchor baby medical cost because they are, wrongly, counted as citizens. The medical cost of illegal women birthing anchor babies is not counted.
What makes illegal alien medical mooching worse, is, in states like Georgia, there's only so much money each year for medical care for the poor. If illegals receive it true American citizens are denied. Sure, they can still get emergency care, but that cost falls on the hospitals.

The last two days I've called Wilson's office and gotten "All lines are busy." I called Rep. Deal's office and asked them to pat Joe on the back for me, as I couldn't get his office. I left a message for Nancy that Wilson was, as the left likes to say, "speaking truth to power" and that BO did lie.

25 posted on 09/11/2009 9:35:43 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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