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CA: Don't go it alone - State energy approach could be devastating
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 9/11/09 | Editorial

Posted on 09/11/2009 9:54:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

With today the final day of the Legislature's session, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic legislative leaders are pushing hard for passage of a law that would require that 33 percent of the power used in California be from renewable energy sources by the end of 2020.

The main sticking point is over a bizarre proposal that all this power be generated in-state, even though California is fully integrated into a regional grid that helps keep reliability up and costs down.

Our concern is much broader, however. A strong case can be made that the state, the nation and the world need to shift to cleaner forms of energy to reduce the emissions that contribute to global warming. But what Schwarzenegger and company are doing could turn California's deep recession into an enduring depression.

Remember, Congress is expected to act in coming months on a similar mandate for future energy sources. The measure now being considered in Sacramento would almost certainly be much stronger than its likely parallel federal law. Because renewable energy costs are significantly greater, it would lock California's businesses into higher energy costs not borne by their economic rivals — both in other states and other nations.

This would have an immediate, devastating effect on manufacturers for whom energy costs are an absolutely critical competitive factor. This pain soon would spread to all sectors of the state economy and lead to higher costs for housing, food and retail goods in general.

It makes far more sense for California to have the same renewable energy standard as the rest of the nation — not one that is uniquely onerous to a state already suffering from record-high unemployment of 11.6 percent.

But then that wouldn't allow Schwarzenegger and such lawmakers as Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, to stake their claims as environmental visionaries.

We wish they would leave their ego out of this in favor of a common-sense approach. If not, 15 percent unemployment, here we come.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: alone; california; devastating; energy; insanity; renewable; schwarzenegger; stupidity

1 posted on 09/11/2009 9:54:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Nuclear


2 posted on 09/11/2009 9:57:51 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: NormsRevenge
re pushing hard for passage of a law that would require that 33 percent of the power used in California be from renewable energy sources by the end of 2020.

Do these imbeciles really think they are helping?

3 posted on 09/11/2009 9:58:25 AM PDT by John123 (If Teddy was the lion of the senate... then we were the prey.)
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To: NormsRevenge

There are two ways to have CA’s energy usage be 33% renewable by 2020.

Increase the amount of energy obtained from renewable resources.

Decrease the amount of energy obtained from non-renewable resources.

I wonder which way they’ll spend their time? Will they try and legislate renewable energy into existence? Or will they legislate non-renewable energy out of existence.

Seems pretty obvious to me. I’m glad I don’t live in Cali.


4 posted on 09/11/2009 9:58:53 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Control the teleprompter, control the agenda!)
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To: NormsRevenge

We need to remember that you just can’t fix stupid. Amen..


5 posted on 09/11/2009 9:59:24 AM PDT by gakrak
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To: NormsRevenge

UT actually makes some sense. A bit.


6 posted on 09/11/2009 10:00:24 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: NormsRevenge

Should Californis decide to go it alone, I would consider to go off grid with solar and generator. I will not pay their inflated prices for electricity. It would be expensive but it would be my decision.


7 posted on 09/11/2009 10:00:39 AM PDT by RC2 (Our Failure is Not an Option)
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To: Personal Responsibility

They got until 2020 to hope and pray someone invents a new way to produce clean power.


8 posted on 09/11/2009 10:02:00 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah Conan. Lead them back to the Hyborian...


9 posted on 09/11/2009 10:02:41 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic legislative leaders are pushing hard for passage of a law that would require that 33 percent of the power used in California be from renewable energy sources by the end of 2020.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*wipes eyes*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

10 posted on 09/11/2009 10:04:45 AM PDT by pabianice
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With all the oil that is available to them that they are not producing, which is their only real hope for recovery,(if they could get public sector unions under conrrol) this is is a truly insane idea and a road to complete bankruptcy.


11 posted on 09/11/2009 10:23:08 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: GeronL
And from the research lab we have this....FR Thread:

Methane-derived hydrocarbons produced under upper-mantle conditions

12 posted on 09/11/2009 10:46:28 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: NormsRevenge
Quite a few years ago, California legislated that something like 10-20% of their cars HAD TO be electrically operated. Like with batteries. Laws of physics and economics be damned - we're passing a law to MAKE it so.

As with all liberal visions, it was a miserable failure.

Welcome to Phase II of ignoring the universe and the marketplace.

13 posted on 09/11/2009 11:57:28 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: NormsRevenge


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

14 posted on 09/11/2009 12:10:57 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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Nuclear

A serious problem is that anti-discrimination laws require that about 2/3rds of a nuclear plant's highly paid employees be functional idiots of dubious loyalty to the USA.

15 posted on 09/11/2009 12:30:20 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: John123
Do these imbeciles really think they are helping?

Yes they do, and that is the problem.

They don't realize that California's issues are about to be compromised by multiple surrounding states new or revised RPS's. They aren't the only idiots pushing this stuff, they have just been able to ride a gravy train of "cheap" read subsidized excess juice from big dams out west primarily.

Competition up - prices up.

Desalinization plants and massive water pumps to quench the thirst of 50 million people alone take a lot of juice...

Electricity to your home or water in your tap anyone?

Freaking nitwits. Someday people will realize that the very infrastructure that keeps major metorpolitan areas in California alive are powered in a large way by coal fired power plants and nuclear plants.

16 posted on 09/11/2009 4:40:12 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: NormsRevenge

Great. The sit-in-the-dark solution. Hope it’s cheap.


17 posted on 09/11/2009 7:10:53 PM PDT by pray4liberty (I'm going to make me a T shirt that says "You Lie.")
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