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We're off to a `warmer' place; Gay life in Miami
Miami Herald ^ | 9/12/2009 | Charles Perez

Posted on 09/12/2009 5:12:29 AM PDT by IbJensen

've decided to move out of the Sunshine State. It's a bit more chilly here than I had expected. Some may say good riddance, but I'm no longer willing to live in a place where I can't get married, can't adopt children and where there are no state laws to protect me from being fired because I'm gay.

And so my partner Keith and I have decided to sell the house, load up the dogs and head north, toward a decidedly warmer climate.

To those who visit here, Florida must seem somewhat schizophrenic. We sell ourselves as a great place to come and play, a multicultural paradise where you can be who you are, as long as you respect the rights and privileges or everyone else. Not so if you're gay and you decide to stay. You'll be greeted by a regressive system of laws more emblematic of a backwater state than one that now, because of its population, draws comparisons to California and New York.

Last year, as gay rights took front and center on the Florida ballot, through the Florida Marriage Amendment, or Proposition 2, religious groups, like the Orlando-based Liberty Counsel, were able to collect more than 600,000 signatures and raise millions of dollars to defeat not only gay marriage, but its equivalent. In essence they pulled the rug out from under civil unions as well, whether they be homosexual or heterosexual.

Many of these voters took to the polls hoping to save kids and marriage. Yet states such as Connecticut that have gay marriage, allow gay adoption and have laws protecting gay men and women, seem to be doing just fine. In fact, according to the most recent figures for the National Center for Health Statistics, Connecticut has a divorce rate approximately 36 percent lower than does Florida. Connecticut also was able to place more than double the percentage of kids available for adoption into permanent homes.

Maybe that gay-tolerant state is, actually, more pro-marriage and pro-family than we are.

Christian beliefs

I grew up as a Catholic. I was an altar boy. I went to a Catholic high school in Fort Lauderdale. I still consider myself a Christian, at least in philosophy: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It is an ethic shared in Judeo-Christianity that has at its core a call for tolerance and love. However, I am also cognizant that for most of the history of Christianity, the church and its many offspring often sided against the forces of compassion and used fear, threats and ignorance as their most powerful tools.

Cannot change orientation

Organized religion can be uplifting, community building, powerful and spiritual.

But, as with government, if left unchecked by its adherents, can also become misguided.

As long as my homosexuality is confined to the ``immoral'' by some, questions about my right to marry, adopt kids and be protected in the workplace will persist. I also have green eyes, by the way. They are as much a part of me as is my sexual orientation. My green eyes have as much to do with my morality as does my sexual orientation. I can cover them with contacts, but I cannot change them. They are inseparable from who I am, as homosexuality is inseparable from human history.

Keith and I are tired of visiting attorneys who tell us, right off the bat, ``There is no privileged communication between the two of you.'' In other words, if we were married, we could not be forced to testify against each other in a court of law. What we'd say in the privacy of our relationship would stay in the privacy of our relationship. We don't have that right in the state of Florida. In Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont we would. We could also be raising the family we want, all respected by the laws of our state, giving our children nothing less than the dignity that comes with having a seat at the table.

We have a right to sit at that table, along with everyone else, and we should have that right in Florida. To fight for that right is certainly the good fight. However, as the clock ticks, and my partner and I push through our 40s, we're no longer willing to wait to have the family we want.

And so, though I hate the cold, to warmer pastures we will go, certain to receive a warmer welcome, convinced that too much love and too much commitment are never a bad thing.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; US: Connecticut; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: dontletthedoorhityou; gaystapo; homobama; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; miami; perverts; protectmarriage; samesexmarriage; seeya
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To: IbJensen

“We could also be raising the family we want, all respected by the laws of our state, giving our children nothing less than the dignity that comes with having a seat at the table.”

Get back to me on that one when those children are the biological result of your union.


41 posted on 09/12/2009 7:12:58 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: matginzac

screwed Temporarily NOT Permanently~~~~ :)


42 posted on 09/12/2009 7:14:43 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("I never knew there were Martians in my garden...." J.Edgar Hoover,Frmr. Director, F.B.I.)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT; Mom MD
I still consider myself a Christian, at least in philosophy: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It is an ethic shared in Judeo-Christianity that has at its core a call for tolerance and love. However, I am also cognizant that for most of the history of Christianity, the church and its many offspring often sided against the forces of compassion and used fear, threats and ignorance as their most powerful tools. Cannot change orientation Organized religion can be uplifting, community building, powerful and spiritual.

The ELCA just decided to force a schism over this issue. The ordination of openly gay clergy has driven a rift through the ELCA to the point that my church has already left the synod. Ironically, CORE Lutheran has also, apparently decided to become an independent synod. Why am I brining this up?

The author of this article talks about his being religious, and he still is in philosphy. Then he goes on the cite social justice, which is really the cancer on Christina religion. I have heard many so-called Christians preaching that being Christian is about social justice this, economic justice that, enviromental justice etc, etc, etc.

I work as a physician in a pretty large urban hospital. I am an intensivist. As I was walking past the ICU waiting room one day, there was a pastor, dressed in his cleric collar and blacks holding court. He was saying to the entire waiting room that the calling of our religion (turns out he was an Episcopalian substituting as a Christian) was to insure social justice, choice and all that. I asked him (I most often cannot hold my tongue, just as my sister) what denomination he was -- Episopalian the response. To which I looked at him and said, "That's funny, I thought being Christan was about preaching the salvation of the gospel in Jesus Christ to the ends of the earth." No response ensued.

I have recently become accutely concernced that mainline Christian churches are more interested in preaching the apostasy of social justice than the life saving salvation of Jesus Christ. Jesus certainly had many hard things to say about the unrepentant sinner. and their fate. He warned about chruches that no longer preach the simple fact that salvation is found in Christ alone, and that the unatoned, unrepentant cannot and will not be saved. While it is the "will of the Father that all men should be saved" all too often, the mainline Christian churches have sacrificed their salvation on the altar of political correctness, and as long as people, like this author, get away with calling themselves "Christian, at least in philosophy" without being called on it, so propogates our name through the earth.

God has laid out the plan of salvation for us all, salvation through the Son, sanctified through the Spirit. It is crucial for all Christians to repeat the simple message of salvation whenever and wherever they can, especially in the face of the lie of salvation through the gospel of social justice.

For my Lutheran brethern: This is most certainly true :)

43 posted on 09/12/2009 7:33:48 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: inflorida
Good. Don’t let the door hit ya....

I believe that the rest of this is -- where the good Lord split ya! But don't worry, his boyfriend is already hitting him there...

44 posted on 09/12/2009 7:36:25 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: IbJensen

Go fag boy, take Keith or whoever your “committed” partner of the moment is and maybe one other and just go to whatever blue area you feel more comfortable in.
Ya flipping glory hole hero.


45 posted on 09/12/2009 7:44:35 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84)
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To: IbJensen

Homosexuality will always be immoral, sodomite, no matter what your contrived “church” or community tells you. Your conscience, what vestige you have left anyway, will always tell you it’s wrong and against God’s creative purpose.


46 posted on 09/12/2009 8:15:36 AM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: gas_dr

I completely agree with your post. Christianity is not about social justice. If you feed or clothe someone without speaking truth about sin and salvation, what have you accomplished? People are literally drowning spiritually, but many “Christians” are more concerned about the environment, gay rights, government hand-outs, etc?!? If people end up eternally separated from God when they die, what good is social justice for them now?


47 posted on 09/12/2009 8:26:30 AM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: IbJensen
Yeah and take the rest of your whiner leftist radicals with you !
48 posted on 09/12/2009 8:31:41 AM PDT by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: IbJensen

I cannot belive that they gay rights groups equated this in anyway to a civil rights issue.... it is a life choice not a skin color or religious dogma....


49 posted on 09/12/2009 9:31:53 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Palin/Beck 2012!!..... Wilson/Palin 2012!!!...... Palin/Wilson2012!!!)
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To: IbJensen
Some may say good riddance, but I'm no longer willing to live in a place where I can't get married, can't adopt children

Oh, drivel. He can get married. Just not to another guy.

50 posted on 09/12/2009 2:29:16 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Are you just eating instant coffee right from the jar now?")
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To: IbJensen

“Hissy fit”?


51 posted on 09/12/2009 4:12:52 PM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: IbJensen

This is devastating news.


52 posted on 09/15/2009 12:33:49 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: IbJensen

Please do not move to Texas.


53 posted on 09/15/2009 12:35:41 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: gas_dr
"Jesus certainly had many hard things to say about the unrepentant sinner. and their fate. He warned about chruches that no longer preach the simple fact that salvation is found in Christ alone, and that the unatoned, unrepentant cannot and will not be saved."

This is definitely worthy of a BUMP.

54 posted on 09/15/2009 12:45:09 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Paradox

This guy is just a whiner.





... and a wiener... remember, "you are what you eat". ;)

I'm sure you were expecting that.

:D

55 posted on 09/15/2009 4:46:21 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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