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A Protectionist Wave--Obama invites a rush of similar claims with his tariffs on Chinese tires
The Wall Street Journal ^ | September 12, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 09/12/2009 10:27:14 AM PDT by jazusamo

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1 posted on 09/12/2009 10:27:15 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Good move. Level the playing field. Put the same costs on foreign manufacturers that are mandated for America manufacturers. If American companies have to pay extra environmental, health care, taxes and regulatory costs then put the same dollar load on foreign companies. It’s like States do on equalize sales taxes with compensating use taxes.


2 posted on 09/12/2009 10:29:44 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: jazusamo

I appreciate the concerns many have with jobs being outsourced and all, but this is nothing more than capitulation to the unions, and sets a dangerous precedent. We’ve got to be competitive in a global economy, and protectionism isn’t going to work in the long run.


3 posted on 09/12/2009 10:30:50 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: jazusamo

Personally I see no problem with tariffs. This is how the federal government was originally funded. Now if only income taxes could be rolled back more.


4 posted on 09/12/2009 10:31:28 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ex-snook

Errrr.. No.. Wrong move.

Correct move would of been to strip the regulations, taxes, and enviromental mandates off of American companies.


5 posted on 09/12/2009 10:31:40 AM PDT by Onerom99 (I)
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To: jazusamo
in just a few sort months this stupid administration has made the USA totally insignificant
6 posted on 09/12/2009 10:32:08 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: bigbob

I couldn’t agree more, protectionism is a bad path to take.


7 posted on 09/12/2009 10:32:50 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Frankly, they should ban Chinese imports and exports.


8 posted on 09/12/2009 10:34:14 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ex-snook

I have a better idea:

Why not CUT TAXES AND REGULATION on U.S. Manufacturers?


9 posted on 09/12/2009 10:37:00 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Onerom99
ex-snook is a Smoot-Hawley punsihing tariff promoter.

I think he has basically pronounced the policies of FDR as 'sane', leading to this kind of economic collapse:

                         GOVERN
            CON          MENT
            SUMP  INVEST PUR    EXPO IMPO NET
YEAR   GDP  TION   MENT  CHASES RTS  RTS  EXPORTS 
----  ----- -----  ----  -----  ---- ---- -----
1929  790.9 593.9  92.4  105.4  35.6 46.3 -10.7 
1930  719.7 562.1  59.8  116.2  29.4 40.3 -10.9 
1931  674.0 544.9  37.6  121.2  24.4 35.2 -10.8 
1932  584.3 496.1   9.9  117.1  19.1 29.2 -10.1 
1933  577.3 484.8  16.4  112.8  19.2 30.4 -11.2 
1934  641.1 519.0  31.5  127.3  21.4 31.1 -9.7 
1935  698.4 550.9  58.0  131.3  22.6 40.7 -18.1 
1936  790.0 606.9  75.5  152.5  23.7 40.2 -16.5 
1937  831.5 629.7  94.0  147.0  29.9 45.3 -15.4 
1938  801.2 619.5  61.3  157.8  29.6 35.2 -5.6 
1939  866.5 654.0  79.5  171.8  31.2 36.9 -5.7 
1940  941.2 688.0 111.3  174.2  35.4 37.8 -2.4 
1941 1101.8 737.1 137.3  288.0  36.4 46.5 -10.1 
1942 1308.9 719.7 72.1   692.0  23.9 42.2 -18.3 

10 posted on 09/12/2009 10:37:01 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: ex-snook
Good move. Level the playing field. Put the same costs on foreign manufacturers that are mandated for America manufacturers. If American companies have to pay extra environmental, health care, taxes and regulatory costs then put the same dollar load on foreign companies. It’s like States do on equalize sales taxes with compensating use taxes.

Wrong, it wasn't a good move. A good move would have been to lower taxes on corporations, including evironmental etc. Level the playing field that way. This is going to cause no end of trouble.

11 posted on 09/12/2009 10:37:56 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: pissant

I believe there’s something to be said for that. The Chinese want our trade but they build a military machine to defeat us and the free world.


12 posted on 09/12/2009 10:38:18 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: pnh102

Protectionism turned a mild recession into THE GREAT DEPRESSION!

If you believe in liberty, you should believe that I have the right to purchase whatever I want, from whom ever I want, at a price we both agree upon.

End of story.


13 posted on 09/12/2009 10:39:05 AM PDT by Kansas58
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There is a lot of buzz on the net about a lot of these tires being dangerous and short lived. The Chinese don’t give a crap about quality control, safety etc. Anything to make a buck and you never know when they will subsitute materials or change specs without purchasers knowing.
It would have been more clever just o ban them for safety reasons and hold them up for years due to that.


14 posted on 09/12/2009 10:39:29 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: pissant

And, China bans the “import” of US Bonds?


15 posted on 09/12/2009 10:39:52 AM PDT by Kansas58
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This type of protectionism will lead to higher prices and inflation, at a time when American families need it the least. We are currently at 16% unemployment, and deflation, not inflation is what is needed.

We have enough causes of inflation. The stimulus bill and additional government debt causes inflation, and to combat this, the Federal Reserve will raise interest rates. Raising interest rates will ensure that the real estate market will never recover.


16 posted on 09/12/2009 10:40:31 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Oldexpat
There is a lot of buzz on the net about a lot of these tires being dangerous and short lived.
That can be addressed in the market place, and by requiring that tests be performed, by requiring conformance to safety standards.

To simply assess a 'tariff' IMO is, well, dumb.

17 posted on 09/12/2009 10:41:49 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: All
An excellent piece by Thomas Sowell on protectionism.

''Tariff Disaster Offers a Lesson on the Folly of Protectionism''

18 posted on 09/12/2009 10:48:29 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: ex-snook
"Good move. Level the playing field."

It will level nothing. All this will do is cause 1930 all over again. If people in this country that 'buy American" policies will put American's to work, they have no idea on how many of the jobs we still have in this country depend completely on free trade.

So enjoy your "buy American" closed border communist country. You are getting what you ask for after all. Including the 50% or more unemployment that goes with it as other countries start slapping tariffs on American products.

Why people have this "everyone works in a factory" mentality is simply amazing.

Most successful American manufacturing in this country is automated and produces a product far superior and cheaper than anything hordes of cheap labor could ever come close to producing. But what does the average protectionist think? Cheap labor= cheap products. Nothing can be further from the truth.

19 posted on 09/12/2009 10:49:35 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Kansas58
Protectionism turned a mild recession into THE GREAT DEPRESSION!

Correct-a-moondo, that!

However Marxists, leftists, Democrats, and narcissists hate being bugged with history and economics.

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Question: how will they blame a trade war on Dubya?

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20 posted on 09/12/2009 10:50:18 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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