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To: seanmerc; sickoflibs; Man50D

As opposed to electing what...RINOs who enjoy collaborating with Democrats?

It’s sad to see Rush shilling for the RINO Party again.


7 posted on 09/14/2009 5:06:46 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (So many Communists, so little time.)
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To: rabscuttle385
It’s sad to see Rush shilling for the RINO Party again.

I agree with Rush. I don't think you understand what he's saying.

22 posted on 09/14/2009 5:10:17 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: rabscuttle385

It’s not an either-or thing. Rush is right, but we don’t have to put up another McCain. I say look to the example of Reagan in 1980. He beat the RINOs in the party by taking his small-government, pro-American republic message directly to the American people and building a majority with that.

He didn’t stomp out of the Party in a hissy fit or spend his time trying to defeat the milquetoast Pubbies in office. He simply and unapologetically, made his plain-spoken case to the American people.

That’s what we need to do and support candidates in doing, and all of this Democrats and Republicans are morally relatively equivalent is dangerous hogwash. A third-party would be a killer to this country right now, because it would cement the Marxists in power.


48 posted on 09/14/2009 5:19:46 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rabscuttle385
Rush is right. As much as I dislike McCain he wouldn't have been as liberal as the current occupant of the WH. Over the years protest voters whether it be those who sat out the elections or voted third party succeeded in voting out so-called RINOS but allowed the kooks from the left to take everything. Look what happened during the primaries we couldn't even consider or agree on an electable candidate if he didn't agree with us 99.9% on all our issues.
51 posted on 09/14/2009 5:20:08 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: rabscuttle385

“RINO’s” aren’t just politicians.

The problem here is that a large part of the electorate - that part of which is needed to achieve power - ARE “Rinos” themselves.

And unless we want to forfeit power for the sake of impotent virtue, then we must come to an accomodation with these people, which requires compromise, and if need be the election of a fair number of “RINO’s”.


54 posted on 09/14/2009 5:20:51 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: rabscuttle385

He never said re-elect Rinos.

Rush is right 99.1%


57 posted on 09/14/2009 5:22:09 PM PDT by omega4179 (We must be the change.)
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To: rabscuttle385
"It’s sad to see Rush shilling for the RINO Party again."

You obviously didn't read or listen to his words today. He's been calling out McCain since the beginning... along with others (Ridge, Powell, L. Grahmn, Snow, etc).

The truth of our political system is that it distills itself down to the two competing tugs of right and left. If you have some other "party" that you believe can move the country in the "right" direction as a majority, then pick your side of that right and left argument... and see where there are the most other like-minded people and convince them.

There is a lot of common ground between libertarians and conservatives. Independents tend to be more libertarian and conservative at their core (if you can ever find it). Moderates are worthless and need to learn the difference between right and left.

Wouldn't you rather have the arguments (like occur here on FR) within a majority that contains conservatives, independents and libertarians instead of the tired old pointless attempts at intelligent debate with people (on the left) who have to lie about what they believe in?

Give me people who want to argue about how to "conserve" the founding principals of this country any day over those that think we need to rebuild this country (into something else) from the ground up.

Our founding principals were right then and they're still right now. The objective needs to be to stop the republican party from drifting left to the center and DRAG it to the right.

112 posted on 09/14/2009 5:40:56 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: rabscuttle385

Rush is Right. Anyone bitching about the GOP being run by RINO’s and NOT active in their local GOP is just being a loud annoyance. Don’t like the direction of the GOP? Then join your state party, convince other conservatives to join, and go make a difference.

Sitting on your computer and whining here accomplishes very little.


141 posted on 09/14/2009 5:54:47 PM PDT by Adams
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To: rabscuttle385
As opposed to electing what...RINOs

If you can't defeat the RINOs within the party, you darn sure can't defeat them (or the democrats) with a third party.

Anything you can do with a third party you can do easier by transforming the GOP. If you don't have enough organization and strength to do that, your third party effort will only, well, as Rush said, elect Obama and more democrats.

159 posted on 09/14/2009 6:13:47 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m beginning to think you are a DU shill with your constant efforts to destroy the GOP here on FR... some people may fall for it, but I think you are one very destructive influence here... you never have a positive suggestion, only constant third party this and third party that, even though history tells every thinking person a third party will give Obama a third term and elect more Al Frankens.


212 posted on 09/14/2009 6:53:09 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: rabscuttle385; seanmerc; Man50D
I heard him live today and said to myself “Here he goes again”

On one hand Rush claims he's not a republican, he's a conservative first. On the other he goes down this logical path where republicans must never lose because democrats are so much worse. Unfortunately many of his listeners (I talk to) take this literally. There is no point in elections if republicans cannot lose. They were getting worse each year since gaining power, how would that get fixed??

Thankfully Rush was not pleading with us to vote for McCain, unfortunately Levin and Hannity were. Hannity was sickening.

(Rush's listeners skyrocket in number ironically when democrats win.)

237 posted on 09/14/2009 7:05:57 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: rabscuttle385
It’s sad to see Rush shilling for the RINO Party again.

No...what's sad is seeing an ignorant squeak of a college student trying to take a conservative giant to task.

It's so sad it's laughable. You're just an anti-Republican troll...and you suck at it, bubby.

441 posted on 09/15/2009 12:45:53 AM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: rabscuttle385

How did Obama get elected?

The conservatives tried to “teach the GOP a lesson” and would not support or help the fight against the dems.

Sitting home or trying to make the GOP listen to you is worthless. Your only voice is your one vote - use it wisely to win rather than to give the democrats a win.

Notice how the dems work - do you see any of them looking for another party? Do you see them fighting among themselves? No, they are too busy moving socialism forward.

We need to move conservatism forward every place we can.


479 posted on 09/15/2009 8:58:36 AM PDT by oneaglewings
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To: rabscuttle385
...I agree Rab. Been listening to Limbaugh many moons, a loov em, hate em, depending on the day. He was on the loov track lately, but, today, when i heard this, he fell back onto the sh!t list!!!

...What bugs me is not “I predicted it, I'm always right, don't doubt me”. That's entertainment. It's that any third party movement gets the stamp as being a “Moderate” from him. He refuses to endorse anyone outright; that makes it easy to say, “I told you so”...

...IMO, that labels him as an over-influential sh!t head, right now...

544 posted on 09/15/2009 6:55:54 PM PDT by gargoyle (...My thoughts are not seditious, or treasonous, they're revolutionary...)
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