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Envisioning A World Without America
IBD Editorials ^ | September 18, 2009 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 09/18/2009 5:56:28 PM PDT by Kaslin

Security: An Iranian mullah once said "a world without America and Zionism" was a real possibility. Our sellout of Eastern Europe and missile defense brings that dream closer to reality. It would take only one warhead.


"Is it possible for us to witness a world without America and Zionism?" Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad asked at a "World Without Zionism" conference in Tehran in 2005. "But you had best know that this slogan and this goal are attainable, and surely can be achieved."

He added that Iran had a strategic "war preparation plan" for what it called "the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization."

A simple Scud missile, with a nuclear warhead, could be fired from an inconspicuous freighter in international waters off our coast and detonated high above America.

This is where the Airborne Laser aircraft program, canceled by this administration, would come in handy.

Or it could be an upgraded Shahab launch, masked as a satellite attempt and flying over where the European defense sites would have been. It would wreak near total devastation on America's technological, electrical and transportation infrastructure.

The threat is called electromagnetic pulse. Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz., calls it the one way we could lose the war on terror. As he notes, a single nuclear warhead, detonated at the right altitude, would interact with the Earth's atmosphere, producing an electromagnetic pulse radiating to the surface at the speed of light.

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To: freedumb2003

That is the world without the USA. Russia owns half, China owns half, the word “freedom” is banned, as is any pretense to it. The ruling elite live super luxury lives not seen since Cesarean Rome and the rest of the world toils in abject poverty.

Have you seen this? THIS is what Bill Ayers & co had (has) envisioned for this country:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNP6Kvgq21I


21 posted on 09/18/2009 6:56:45 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (http://www.muckety.com/7BECFF40501E647D3741343C37265A57.map)
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To: NCjim
Step by step this traitor is taking us down the path of no return. Pray for our country.

By comparison, Nevile Chamberlin was a patriot.

22 posted on 09/18/2009 7:05:56 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin

We have nuke subs out there as well as nuclear armed surface ships. Iran would be signing its death warrant. Of course it will matter not since the world will likely go up in flames anyway


23 posted on 09/18/2009 7:24:36 PM PDT by misterrob (A society that burdens future generations with debt can not be considered moral or just)
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To: DarthVader
Their day of reckoning is rapidly approaching.

Making a list and checking it twice.

24 posted on 09/18/2009 7:38:57 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Kaslin

And NO RELIGION too !


25 posted on 09/18/2009 8:00:27 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Kaslin

I read a book last month about this very scenario. It’s titled... One Second After by William Forstchen. Good read. Scary, scary stuff tho. Can hardly imagine what it would be like having to try and live in 1880’s type of conditions.


26 posted on 09/18/2009 8:05:50 PM PDT by NCMom57
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To: All
Apparently, Imahandjob isn't the only one who envisions a world without America...


27 posted on 09/18/2009 8:16:42 PM PDT by rlmorel (You cannot reap the benefits right now of the planning ahead you didn't do in the past.)
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To: nuke rocketeer
I don't think it will much matter to me what happens to Obama, given that after an EMP attack, most of us will starve to death in a few weeks.

With most electrical systems in the USA fried by the EMP, getting food & water will be impossible for most people. Stores & banks will be closed for weeks or months; debit & credit cards will be useless. Even cash might not pay for what you need, even if you could find someone willing to sell it to you.

An EMP attack will make Katrina look like Thanksgiving, only it will encompass much of the USA. There will be few working vehicles, so no significant relief effort can be made by the gov't.

The police will be as helpless as the citizens. Their cars, phones, & radios will not work either. Anyone who cannot defend & sustain themselves for weeks or months will likely die in the resulting chaos.

Probably the only people who will survive in relative comfort & security will be Obama & his friends.

28 posted on 09/18/2009 8:22:43 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: rlmorel

Hell! The man practically TOLD us he was going to destroy the US! The people who voted for this man have to be among the most STUPID people on earth.


29 posted on 09/18/2009 8:41:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yep. I saw that video before the election where he talked about emasculating the military and getting rid of the nuclear weapons.

I did not believe the USA would elect a man like that. I still cannot believe it.


30 posted on 09/18/2009 8:43:53 PM PDT by rlmorel (You cannot reap the benefits right now of the planning ahead you didn't do in the past.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

He didn’t practically tell us.. He outright told us. I blame the dumbed-down dummies who voted for him and now regret it the most.


31 posted on 09/18/2009 8:49:30 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (“Cap and Trade bill tells us how to live.. Health Care bill tells us how to die.” Bauer and Rose)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
“STUPID”

I'm not going to let them off that easy.

I contend that they're COMPLICIT, and anyone who voted for 0bama is an enemy of the United States.

32 posted on 09/18/2009 9:46:13 PM PDT by Semper Mark ("The future ain't what it used to be." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Kaslin

That’s why you have your option 2. Don’t plan to hang around. Have a private plane or a boat ready, get the hell out fast.


33 posted on 09/18/2009 10:26:50 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: Kaslin

I try to envision an America w/o the world. OK. maybe a few countries like those in the Anglosphere, Israel and Vatican City can hang around.


34 posted on 09/19/2009 12:36:39 AM PDT by Lou Budvis (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: EyeGuy

Yes, way overdue.


35 posted on 09/19/2009 3:54:59 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: mojitojoe
Have a private plane or a boat ready, get the hell out fast.

Hmmm. Probably easier to build a Faraday cage around a car or two, than a boat or a plane. Or for that matter, around just a couple of spare Bosch K-Jetronic ignitions, etc.

Canada would prob. be your destination of choice: language, abundant hydroelectric, and the Athabaska Tar Sands and Alberta oil patch to support the economy. That and the northern end of the wheat belt, which goes all the way up to the Peace River country. But you'd probably want to be on the other side of the Rockies anyway: more temperate over there, if soggier.

Someplace like Prince Rupert. Vancouver'd be too close to what was left of the States.

Coastal Alaska would work on the same terms -- U.S. Government, no firearms hassles. And no shortage of gasoline in Valdez.

36 posted on 09/19/2009 4:21:11 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

“Envisioning A World Without America”

It’s already been done:

“Brave New World” by Aldous Huxley
“1984” by George Orwell
“Animal Farm” - George Orwell


37 posted on 09/19/2009 5:29:14 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: Mister Da
I think most, if not all military vehicles are proofed against EMP, so National Guard and Reserve trucks can do substantial relief duties. There is also still an analog spine in the telephone system that can function in a limited way too.

IMHO, if you don't keep at least a couple of month's worth of food stored, and a couple of guns to defend it, you are a fool.

If 0bama lets this happen, he and his cronies probably won't live very long afterwards anyway, at minimum he will always be on the run trying to stay away from an angry lynch mob.

38 posted on 09/19/2009 6:36:16 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: rlmorel

That picture fills me with loathing and rage every time I see it.

The president of the US should NOT be reading about the “Post American World”.

The president of the US should be doing everything he can to ensure there is no “Post American World”.


39 posted on 09/19/2009 8:05:54 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Nah, I think heading North is a bad option. Freezing to death doesn’t appeal to me. Go somewhere warm, where if there is no power, you won’t freeze. Caribbean islands, Panama, places like that.


40 posted on 09/19/2009 8:34:51 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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