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Obama Agenda Survey (RNC fund raising package, and my response)
September 19, 2009 | cc2k

Posted on 09/19/2009 7:50:52 AM PDT by cc2k

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To: cc2k

FWIW, my response to a similar mailing. And thank y’all for reading this. The RNC sure a hell didn’t.

July 23, 2009

Republican National Committee
310 First Street, S. E.
Washington, DC 20003

To whom it may concern:

Thank you for letting me participate in the census. Please bear with me as I cover a few items in detail.

Let me state right here, right up front, that I am a Conservative with a capital C. I’m not a Democrat or a Libertarian or a Progressive or an Independent or even a Republican. I am a Conservative. Period. When given a slate of candidates, I will always vote for the ones I feel are the most conservative, whatever their official party affiliation.

Having said that, I wonder what happened to the party of small government, low taxes, liberty and freedom? The Founding Fathers would be appalled and disheartened at what the Republican Party has become.

In my opinion, the Democrats and the Republicans are all moving to the left. And as you do, you leave me and other solid Conservatives in your dust. Clearly you must not care about this or else you would stop and head back to the conservative values listed in the previous paragraph.

I truly wish there was a political party rooted in consistent conservatism that stood half a chance of getting national candidates elected. I would join and monetarily support such a party in a second. Unfortunately, there is no such party.

On another subject, President Obama (I call him nobama) as done several things since being elected that I consider onerous. Such as: firing the CEO of General Motors, arranging special deals for the bankruptcies of GM and Chrysler (screwing secured bondholders while making sure his UAW buds get a great deal), appointing 25+ “czars” with no congressional vetting and no oversight authority, etc. Thus far, it appears to me you guys are letting nobama run roughshod over you and our precious country. What, specifically, (I DO NOT want just a bunch of words, we get that spew constantly from nobama) are y’all planning to do about this run away freight train?

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Regarding the census question closest to your heart, number 17: Before I donate money, would you be willing to give me a written promise that the RNC will give no support to the eight scumbag ‘Republicans’ that voted for cap & tax on June 26th?” I certainly do not want any of my money going to folks that obviously don’t care about the devastation cap and tax will cause here in South Carolina where about 80% of our electricity comes from that soon-to-be very scarce resource called coal.

A month ago you sent me a similar census form and I filled it out, sans donation, enclosed a letter like this one and mailed it off. I did not hear from you. If you don’t think my vote is important enough to respond to my letters, how can you expect me to donate money to you? Most days I feel DeMint, Cornyn and Kyle are all you have going for you. Y’all best get your stuff together.

I am by nature a very optimistic person. However, it is my opinion that any person, what ever their political leanings, who watches the “news” on television, reads the papers and surfs the Internet a little cannot help but come to the conclusion that the Republicans and Democrats alike are completely drunk on arrogancy, incumbency and power. Further it is my opinion that with the current recession/depression our country is in, we ain’t seen nothing yet. And, for the most part, y’all are not helping. It would seem you are scared to death of the Democrats. I am not. Grow some cojones. I fear really, really bad and dystopian days are coming for our precious country. I pray they will be bloodless.

Cordially,

upchuck


21 posted on 09/19/2009 8:23:50 AM PDT by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: True Republican Patriot

The GOP sees a great deal of anger at democrats and makes the mistake of thinking all has been forgiven with the GOP.

They think they can now come to the rescue riding their majestic RINO steeds but are in for a big shock if they think they’ll get a red carpet welcome.


22 posted on 09/19/2009 8:23:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: sailor4321

We are both very tired of giving money to republicans that vote against the core values of the party.

I was listen to Rush the other day when he was talking about the Tea Party on 9/12. He sounded scared that this would lead to an abandonment of the GOP for a new party. I hope the GOP leadership gets the point that we are not happy with their performance and we will be making changes 2010. I hope every RINO gets a real conservative challenger in a primary. Time to clean house and get in some fresh blood.


23 posted on 09/19/2009 8:26:49 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: cc2k

I received it yesterday and just tossed it. I’m not in the mood to be donating to the RNC this year at this time. When they start standing up and growing a “pair” then I might. For now, Michelle Bachmanb and Sarah Palin speak up more than the rest put together oh and Marsha Blackburn too.


24 posted on 09/19/2009 8:32:05 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (ACORN is going down, down, down~!!!! Finally~!!!!)
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To: cc2k

I often wonder what they end up in their next life after being tossed in our recycle bin.


25 posted on 09/19/2009 8:36:20 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: nutmeg; Taxman; a fool in paradise; MNJohnnie; Prokopton; KarlInOhio; Puppage; AmericanVictory; ...

FYI Ping


26 posted on 09/19/2009 8:37:18 AM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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To: cc2k

Oh you spend far more time than I’d ever consider. My response usually consists of taking a red magic marker and saying “take me off the list you morons.” Particularly the one I received recently stamped “Past Due” on the envelope.

I do, however, get a little more explicit with the phone calls.


27 posted on 09/19/2009 8:37:34 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: USMA '71
No check - and the minimum wage worker tares the survey in half and then in half again and throws it in the trash.

You have your grammar confused a bit. Without a check, the survey becomes tare and the mailing is discarded. Tare is either a certain kind of plant or the portion of a shipment paid for by weight that is non-payload and thus subject to refund.

28 posted on 09/19/2009 8:37:36 AM PDT by altair (I hope he fails)
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To: Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy wrote:
I hope the GOP leadership gets the point that we are not happy with their performance and we will be making changes 2010. I hope every RINO gets a real conservative challenger in a primary. Time to clean house and get in some fresh blood.

I hope you and your neighbors are doing everything in your power to make this happen in your district and state. Don’t wait for party “leaders” to select these challengers, go find them for yourselves. And I don’t just mean for federal Congressional and Senate seats, but for state and local races as well.

I’m not certain whether the Republican party can be saved, but I am certain that the current leadership won’t save it. It will have to be saved from the grass roots up. And the national money machine could oppose the changes that are sorely needed.

Ultimately, the party membership, the rank and file get to decide what the party stands for. Or they get to choose an alternate party that stands in line with their own values and priorities. The question is, can the Republican party be saved now? Or is it time to move on to a new conservative party?

No matter which way it goes, the time to act is now, not later. The 2010 election cycle is an opportunity that won’t repeat itself any time soon. There is widespread discontent, and a “Throw all the bums out” attitude in the electorate that isn’t usually this strong.


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cc2k:

29 posted on 09/19/2009 8:51:54 AM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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To: cc2k

I received the survey yesterday and tore it open in the post office. I scanned down to see if it was a plea for money. It didn’t make it to my car. I deplore this marketing/fundraising technique and I doubt that anybody reads the survey responses. I think they open the envelope, subtract the check and trash the rest.

On reading the questions, they selected every conservative hot-button issue except national security. This is shameful exploitation of their electorate.

I think our number one issue should be term limits. Career employees have too much invested in their employer. If you’re a hammer, you tend to see the whole world as nails. If you’re a career government employee you tend to see every solution as bigger government; regardless of party. What this “survey” tells me is that the Republican party is willing to exploit our concerns and, as the author pointed out, they have repeatedly failed to act on them when they could have.

I attended the 912 protest in DC (at a cost of about $600.) I’m attending local political events searching for a candidate I can work for and give financial support to. Several of my friends are doing the same. I think a third party will only ensure we have more Democrats in office. So, how do we actually take control of the Republican party and re-center it (assuming it was once centered) on core philosophical values?

Another thing I think we should concentrate on is “health care.” By that I mean something entirely different than what everyone else means. The “insurance” most of us have through our employer is government mandated private socialized medicine. Socialized anything increases the price and builds in market-bending new realities. There are two areas where the cost of medicine have dropped yearly since their introduction. Lasik surgery and plastic surgery. How is it possible that the cost of these services has declined? Increased efficiency due to competition. Why is it happening for these two and nothing else in medicine? Because Lasik surgery and plastic surgery are not covered by “health insurance.” The reason that health care has gone out of sight is not that there are uninsured people. It is because some people ARE insured.

The second problem is that government has decreed that no one can be declined treatment because they can’t pay for it. Despite the “freeness” of their treatment, somebody does pay. You and me and every taxpayer and insurance provider. That “free” service is spread unequally across everybody who does pay. Before the government got involved doctors and hospitals were expected to donate some time and materials to indigent cases. There were charity hospitals. I don’t know by what mechanism these charity hospitals were removed from the medical scene, but they seem to be long gone.

Would I advocate that we turn away the illegal alien who fell off a roof and broke his leg? No. But nothing says we have to pay to treat his diabetes or lung cancer he got from smoking two packs a day. That should be the job of charity hospitals. It should be illegal and immoral to force somebody, even an anonymous taxpayer, to pay for the medical care of whole classes of people they don’t even know. And, further, if those people are here illegally, they should be firmly shown the door.

But, back to the issue of the survey, shame on you Republican leadership.


30 posted on 09/19/2009 8:56:43 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: darkwing104

I throw the junk surveys away. When I get a phone survey person I tell them the RINO-led RNC is a tool of the Demrat Party and hang up.


31 posted on 09/19/2009 8:59:20 AM PDT by dools007
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To: cc2k

I am on the RINO mailing list. I get crap in the mail from McCain (gag), Newt and Romney.


32 posted on 09/19/2009 9:03:52 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: DManA

“THey just don’t listen”

Yea, but I feel smug ‘cause I at least got ‘em for postage.


33 posted on 09/19/2009 9:09:01 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Dutch Boy

Absolutely agree!


34 posted on 09/19/2009 9:24:58 AM PDT by sailor4321
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To: cc2k

I wouldn’t hold my breath either. I long ago figured out that responding to RNC surveys was a waste of my time and energy. The Rhino elite who run the Republican party and dole out campaign funds could care less about anything but their globalist agenda.


35 posted on 09/19/2009 9:38:57 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Gen.Blather

‘Another thing I think we should concentrate on is “health care.” By that I mean something entirely different than what everyone else means. The “insurance” most of us have through our employer is government mandated private socialized medicine. Socialized anything increases the price and builds in market-bending new realities. There are two areas where the cost of medicine have dropped yearly since their introduction. Lasik surgery and plastic surgery. How is it possible that the cost of these services has declined? Increased efficiency due to competition. Why is it happening for these two and nothing else in medicine? Because Lasik surgery and plastic surgery are not covered by “health insurance.” The reason that health care has gone out of sight is not that there are uninsured people. It is because some people ARE insured.’

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You are quite correct. Whether “private” (with massive legislatively mandated coverage terms) or “public”, comprehensive medical services insurace is a driver of costs, not a controller of costs. Medicare and Medicaid shift costs to private plans and individuals by strong arming the providers with mandated low fee schedules, and the larger private plans do the same through contract negotiations with their “in network” providers, and sharply limited benefits for subscribers who use “out of network” providers. After these two levels of “cost shifting” to smaller employer plans and individuals with negligible negotiating power, the cost shifts back “up to the top” (i.e., to taxpayers) when indigent individuals jam emergency rooms consuming huge amount of resources with zero cost to them (though their treatment in the ER’s is substandard by any reasonable standard - - “stabilize the patient, and then kick them out in the street” or if they can’t get away with that, then “move them to the ‘meat locker’ in-patient services until they croak”, several tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars later).

A largely third-party-payer funding system will do this every time because of the disconnect between cost to provide the service and the direct cost incurred by the user. Until this pernicious cost-shifting “food chain” is terminated (first step - eliminate the employer tax deduction for employer-sponsored medical services benefits), the cost spiral will continue, absent a severe and equally pernicious rationing scheme such as is on display in the British system.

There is a place for medical insurance, but it should be limited to catastrophic coverage, e.g., an extremely high deductible, and routine services should be provided the same way groceries and household goods are provided, through direct purchase by users, who will drive the prices back to a reasonable level. Tort reform would help too, but it’s not only the availability of “deep pockets” of insurers and medical service providers that is a problem, but the lack of serious sanctions against serially negligent and reckless medical service providers. If their professional associations won’t apply appropriate discipline, the legal system, with all its limitations, will have to do the job.


36 posted on 09/19/2009 9:56:59 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: cc2k

I got one and scribbled on it “Until there is a cosequence to voting against republican interests (snowe collins etc) you will get no money from me. I then let them pay for the return.


37 posted on 09/19/2009 9:59:43 AM PDT by Grammy (The Lord is the Alpha and Omega. ObamaA has it backwards.)
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To: cc2k

Until the Repubs grow somew balls, not one dime from me. The Libs tear-out the throats of their opponents; the Republicans ask them in for brandy and a polite discussion. How did this come to pass?


38 posted on 09/19/2009 10:03:19 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: altair
You are absolutely correct. Brainlock on my part. The verb I was searching for was “ to tear” as in to rend apart. I have no excuse other than old age and Obama/government sensory overload. I will try to do better next post - but no guarantees.
39 posted on 09/19/2009 10:08:40 AM PDT by USMA '71 ((Re-elect no one!))
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To: Corin Stormhands
Oh you spend far more time than I’d ever consider. My response usually consists of taking a red magic marker and saying “take me off the list you morons.”

In the past I would print out the McCain Peso I found here on FR and send that in lieu of cash or check. Now I simply tear 'em up and toss 'em in the bin.
40 posted on 09/19/2009 10:15:36 AM PDT by LostInBayport (The magnetic strip on the back of the Race Card is worn out from overuse.)
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