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To: cc2k
The author misses one of the signs. I would add a sixth:

The Marxists have nearly total control over our government K-12 schools and colleges and universities! Once they took hold of the schools those graduates then took over the culture.

In fact, from their very beginnings in the mid 1800s to finally being enacted nationwide in the early 1900s, government schools teach children to be comfortable with taking other people's money to pay for something their parents want for free! Do this for 13 or more years and the citizen is now fully ready to take money from his neighbor for retirement, disability, medicines, ICU care, food, clothing, shelter, university scholarships...etc.

It is my belief that FDR was elected and his New Deal approved because 1 to 3 generations of citizens had been programed to comfortable with socialism merely by attending government schools which are fundamentally middle class education welfare. It's been a downhill slide since.

But...If conservatives want to reverse this they maybe there is still time. They must dedicate themselves to getting children into building up a system of conservative, tuition-free, and private schools. ( Hopefully, it is too late.)

12 posted on 09/20/2009 8:05:53 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime; RC2; avg_freeper
wintertime wrote:
The author misses one of the signs. I would add a sixth:

The Marxists have nearly total control over our government K-12 schools and colleges and universities! Once they took hold of the schools those graduates then took over the culture.

I agree there, and I do think that could be a separate issue.

Although the problem actually stems from his second point, the creation of new “rights,” created by governments and provided by governments. We now have a “right to a free (publicly funded) education.” And it is sheer insanity to expect that the government that funds that education won’t twist the curriculum won’t present the most government friendly curriculum they can get away with. That’s how they maintain power. That is entirely predictable.

RC2 wrote:
I agree but, I read the Federalist Papers from time to time but only to see “why” they did what they did. Not to attempt to pick their minds as to what they really meant without saying it.

I agree with that for the most part. However, there are some times when contemporaneous statements by the founders does help us to understand the full meaning of the actual words in the Constitution. Take this quote from Madison:


“If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress.... Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America.” — James Madison

There has been great confusion about the “general welfare” “clause” in the preamble to the Constitution, as well is in the preface of Article 1, Section 8, which only introduces the list of enumerated powers of Congress. This quote (and many others from the founders) makes it clear that there is no power to tax for the “general welfare.” Any law or court ruling to the contrary is based on either ignorance or willfully ignoring the actual words as well as the intent of the writers of the Constitution.

avg_freeper wrote:
You wouldn't happen to have links to the other parts of this would you?

Unfortunately, I don’t have an online source for these. All of these were posted here on FreeRepublic when they were published back in 2001 and 2002. And back then, we tended to post full text from articles, not just excerpts. I posted some of these myself. But it appears that the original threads from that time have been removed or lost somehow.

On the BackwoodsHome.com website, there are only two other columns by John Silveria on this topic, “The Coming American Dictatorship, Part XI,” from the current issue, and “The Coming American Dictatorship revisited,” from late 2002.

I hate to sound like I am trying to sell something here, but Backwoods Home used to have a CDROM with all of their back issues on it. You might try contacting them over on their web site and seeing if there is a CDROM covering the entire period when these columns were written.

By the way, most of John Silveria’s columns are great discussions of constitutional issues and government. The entire collection is well worth reading.


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33 posted on 09/21/2009 5:25:00 AM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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