Skip to comments.Were Stone Age Britons Trigonometry Experts?
Posted on 09/21/2009 8:30:56 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Man-made geographical high points in southern England and Wales have been observed for centuries, including earthworks, stone monuments like Stonehenge, and hill camps. But something quite unexpected about their distribution may have been verified...
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Let’s not go off on a tangent.
But, it’s at least a positive sine!
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I'm going to have to see a lot of proof...;-)
I don’t mean to be obtuse but it just doesn’t add up.
You are BAD, very bad!
It’s a sine of the times.
Can you hold on for a secant?
They evolved to be that way.
Then he set about to put the universe and everything in it into a mathematical format.
Then he got arrogant, and began predicting things like "global warming"...
Mystery hackers from outer space......
Yeah, I’ve got a minute or two...
This has been known for years. The animal skin sails that they made were always perfect 30-60-90 triangles. They knew to make the bottom edge 1/2 the hypotenuse.
This is the origin of the term “fur sail sine”.
It’s interesting how surprised some people are about how advanced *primitive* peoples were. There’s this mindset that just because they weren’t as technologically advanced as we are, or perhaps attributed supernatural causes to things that they had no way of knowing otherwise, that they were stupid.
*Primitive* does not equal *stupid*.
If they were that stupid, they wouldn’t have made the gains in knowledge and technology that they did. When one considers the level of knowledge that they were starting from, that they had to figure out what we take for granted, it’s rather amazing the things they were able to accomplish.
While they may have been primitive technology wise, I don’t think that we see that kind of brilliance much more these days.
“With a name like stephenjohnbanker I’d have thought you’d make some remark about cosiners. “
I will Log this, thank you!
What’s the Square Root of SPAM?
Very sophisticated work, and of course they are real. John Michell wrote about all this years ago, the “dragon lines” in China, etc in his book “The View Over Atalantis”.
Once can only imagine how incredibly intelligent the first couple must have been!
Very funny LP!!
Genesis 11:6 (King James Version)
6And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
But will you cosine my loan? ;-P
Between that bias and the "obvious deep religious significance" bias, I think we have centuries of misinterpretation behind us in cultural anthropology.
Yeah, it seems like everything the ancients did was attributed to religious motivation. No thought that what they did was simply practical.
And, again, there's the tendency to equate intelligence with technological development but that's rather misleading. You do the best with what you have and starting from scratch and developing it all, takes more brains than the situation we have today, where so much data id spoonfed to us, that there's no need to really think any more.
It's a lot easier to use a computer than to develop one. So, who's smarter, the person who can sit at a keyboard and run programs, or the person who created it all?
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No- but htey were indeed origami experts
I can’t see any sine of what the angle of this article is.
They don't look too bright to me.
LOL!!!...on that I think it safe to say that we are in 100% agreement :o)
Bound to happen sooner or later!
When you consider the tools and materials available say, 10,000 years ago, what would survive with the exception of stone and bone in just the right environs, besides earthworks?
If you were to shut down modern society, go back to roasting meat over a fire and picking berries for dinner, how long would the ruins persist, what technology would be recognizable in the detritus?
Even plastic degrades over time...
Our successful ancestors figured out the basics, whether that be herd movements, navigation on land and water, time, celestial movements, the seasons, food preservation, agriculture, and onward, often passing down those discoveries and techniques without the benefit of written (as far as we know, anyway) texts to aid them in the process.
The ability to create surviving written and universally readable texts has significntly advanced the rate of progress along technological and scientific lines. But while it has allowed the transmission and reevaluation of concepts, it has likewise increased the 'noise' component out there, especially of late.
Dumb? Stupid? Hardly. It takes genius to unearth fundamental concepts and use them, and only those who take them for granted miss that.
Perhaps then that knowledge was closely guarded, kept among a small group, and seemed like magic to the general population, perhaps not. But the workings of a hard drive might seem as much like magic to the person of today as the ability to determine when it was time to head for winter camp might have seemed to the nomad of 2000 years ago.
Anybody want to cosine my loan?
Best one of the thread so far...
So, who’s smarter, the person who can sit at a keyboard and run programs, or the person who created it all?
Talk about your false dichotomies.
The word “trigonometry” is misused here. Trig is a procedure for turning angular (rotational) measurement into linear measurement. The old Brits used geometry, not trig.
The content of this article is too scant. A 100 mile waypoint may not be visible due to the curvature of the Earth. 215 feet is swallowed up in 18 miles. I just did a quick calculation, you would need about 12,750feet of elevation change to see a tower 120nm away. So if their surveys are correct, they did not do the long runs by line-of-sight. This elevation could be accomplished by either end being elevated above the smooth Earth surface. On a clear day, Telescope Peak, CA can be seen from the Devil’s Punchbowl County Park, which is a distance of 112nm line-of-sight. The elevation of Telescope Peak is 11,300ft while the Punchbowl is 4200ft, which jives with the LOS calculation.
I’ll secant that!....................
It is a vanity of modern day man to suppose that people living a very primitive life style are less intelligent so that if anything of note was accomplished by them, it’s a great mystery or wonder calling for questions of, “How could such primitive people” do this or that.
To stay on the right path, just follow the sines.
Not for one secant.
Nay not so, trig is the math part of geometry.
Thanks for the ping!
So Brian Thomas* is now an expert mathematician too?
What empirical evidence does Mr Thomas cite to support this assertion?
"This directly contradicts the erroneous evolutionary concept that ancient man emerged from apes"
This statement is not correct. The Evolutionary theory shows that Modern Men and Apes share a common ancestor. Humans did not come from apes. No qualified person in the scientific community has ever made that claim, including Darwin. All apes and humans are desceneded from a single proto-ape species that lived millions of years ago and no longer exists.
Failure to understand even the basic concepts of the Evolutionary Theory does not help promote your argument.
Considering the lack of 'advanced' technology that we have today, it is almost a 'miracle' that ancient man even survived. (/sarc)
No. It doesn't. It does, however, make one a member of a very large club.