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ACORN files suit against filmmakers
politico.com ^ | Sept. 23, 2009 | JAKE SHERMAN

Posted on 09/23/2009 2:35:47 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: donna

Linda Tripp will not be convicted of a crime for “recording” her conversations with Lewinsky because she did not “intercept” a communication. Below you’ll find a rather detailed explanation why. But it’s important to realize that the press reporting on this story is either so uneducated and uninformed that they cannot even read the text of the law applicable to Linda, or they are intentionally misrepresenting the law because of a pathological dislike for Linda and her actions. Whichever, there must be at least one honest and competent reporter out there interested in the truth about what Maryland law DOES say rather than what the great majority erroneously THINKS it says.

False Assumption #1: Maryland law prohibits the “taping” or “recording” of conversations without the consent of all persons.

The Truth #1: Maryland law prohibits the “interception” of “communications” without the consent of all persons to the communication and does not even mention “taping” or “recording” anywhere in the part of the statute related to criminal violations.

Explanation #1: Maryland law states the following verbatim:

Unlawful acts. — Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle it is unlawful for any person to: (1) Willfully intercept, endeavor to intercept, or procure any other person to intercept or endeavor to intercept, any wire, oral, or electronic communication;

(2) Willfully disclose, or endeavor to disclose, to any other person the contents of any wire, oral, or electronic communication, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, oral, or electronic communication in violation of this subtitle; or

(3) Willfully use, or endeavor to use, the contents of any wire, oral, or electronic communication, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, oral, or electronic communication in violation of this subtitle. Cts. & Jud. Proc. §10-402(a)(1)-(a)(3). (emphasis added)

Nowhere in the law are the words “tape” or “record” ever used.

Request to the Press #1: Stop incorrectly reporting that Maryland law prohibits the “taping” or “recording” of conversations without the consent of all persons and instead properly report that Maryland law prohibits the “interception” of “communications” without the consent of all parties.

Consent is addressed in the following provision of Maryland law:
It is lawful under this subtitle for a person to intercept a wire, oral, or electronic communication where the person is a party to the communication and where all of the parties to the communication have given prior consent to the interception unless the communication is intercepted for the purpose of committing any criminal or tortious act in violation of the Constitution of laws of the United States or of this State. Cts. & Jud. Proc. §10-402(c)(3). (emphasis added)

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201 posted on 09/23/2009 6:25:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: londonfog

“Screw acorn. What will be now be unleashed is the greatest legal defense fund in history that will empower these young heroes to penetrate the inner being of this vile entity with the unholy wrath on legions on conservative lawyers who will disembowel acrap and its leaders. Fund raising will start Monday on your favorite talk host. Good luck Commies!!! it will be MILLIONS!!!!! (I will give $1,776 quick)”

How do you REALLY feel about this issue, LF?


202 posted on 09/23/2009 6:26:42 PM PDT by jessduntno (Tell Obama to STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation.)
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To: Taggart_D

Anybody can file suit. The question is if the state will dismiss it on request.

Can we get a copy of the filing?


203 posted on 09/23/2009 6:50:28 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: kcvl

All of the text you cite is listed in the lawsuit including the “intercept” word.


204 posted on 09/23/2009 7:09:15 PM PDT by altair ("We are content and happy if Obama can stay forever as president of America." - Gadhafi)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Yup. Scroll back through this thread. Someone posted a link to it.


205 posted on 09/23/2009 7:10:29 PM PDT by altair ("We are content and happy if Obama can stay forever as president of America." - Gadhafi)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
At the end of the day, I'm reminded of the only good scene from Rocky V, when he punches the Rodney King character in the face when he threatens to sue him after he is flat broke.

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Uuuuhhh, hey Eric you dumbass, that wasn't like Rodney King, that was Don King, dillweed. Rodney was like the guy who was beaten senseless by the cops, for like uuuuhhhh, stealing some nachos or something.

206 posted on 09/23/2009 7:11:39 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: altair
Maryland law prohibits the “interception” of “communications” without the consent of all persons to the communication

The video taping was not 'intercepted'! James O'Keefe directly taped the criminals in action which is not unlawful in the state of Maryland according to their laws on the books.

207 posted on 09/23/2009 8:43:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Free ThinkerNY; FlingWingFlyer; altair; stephenjohnbanker; youturn; little jeremiah; ...
ACORN Ping!

FReep mail me if you want on/off the list.


208 posted on 09/23/2009 8:53:10 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
this could be the absolute dream come true if it is played right

tgo (mark levin) says the discovery process can be hell

meaning - in their defense, they can place anyone and everyone under oath - subpoena any and all documents - give an anal exam to anyone that has ever uttered the word acorn

this could include members of congress and even der fuhrer

acorn and their advisers are idiots for doing this - i bet a legal foundation would gladly take them on as clients - i also bet the suit will be withdrawn before sunrise

209 posted on 09/23/2009 9:19:21 PM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: kcvl

“It is lawful under this subtitle for a person to intercept a wire, oral, or electronic communication”

I am curious as to what “intercept an ORAL communication” would entail. Any thoughts?


210 posted on 09/23/2009 9:31:44 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: kcvl

And yet they made Linda poor defending herself.


211 posted on 09/23/2009 10:36:11 PM PDT by donna (3rd largest workforce in the world: UK National Health Service (Chinese Army is #1))
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To: kcvl

And yet they made Linda poor defending herself.


212 posted on 09/23/2009 10:36:27 PM PDT by donna (3rd largest workforce in the world: UK National Health Service (Chinese Army is #1))
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To: ConservativeofColor

ping


213 posted on 09/24/2009 2:34:37 AM PDT by South40 (Islam has a long tradition of tolerance, ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: South40

No that is not what the law says or requires. These are people providing a service to the public. they have NO expectation of privacy in their comments. This suit is going nowhere ( except maybe some stupid judge who has a sister or an in-law in ACORN)


214 posted on 09/24/2009 10:01:19 AM PDT by the long march
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To: altair
The plaintiffs are demanding trial by jury. That is bad.

It could be good. Since the recordings themselves will probably have to be admitted into evidence and shown to the jury, it's possible that one or more members of the jury will be so outraged over the contents that they'll exercise their prerogative to engage in a little "jury nullification" and refuse to find for the plaintiffs.

215 posted on 09/24/2009 11:45:29 AM PDT by Bitter Bierce
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To: kcvl

You make a good point. How exactly does one “intercept” an oral communication, which is transmitted neither electronically nor telephonically? The statute doesn’t define the term, and I think it’s problematic with regard to oral communications.


216 posted on 09/24/2009 11:53:18 AM PDT by Bitter Bierce
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To: SeattleBruce

The two party system has failed. It just doesn’t matter MUCH anymore, which one is in.

David Souter was replaced by Sotomoyer...and not a single thing on the SCOTUS has changed.

I’m totally looking at third parties.

After that, there’s nothing but revolution.


217 posted on 09/24/2009 1:02:40 PM PDT by kjo
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To: neverbluffer

Because it funds homes for the downtrodden, unlucky and irresponsible - the Liberal “victim” base.

Lest we forget voter fraud.


218 posted on 09/24/2009 2:39:12 PM PDT by wac3rd (Felipe Calderon supports the public option.)
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To: kjo

The two party system has failed. It just doesn’t matter MUCH anymore, which one is in.

David Souter was replaced by Sotomoyer...and not a single thing on the SCOTUS has changed.

I’m totally looking at third parties.

After that, there’s nothing but revolution.
+++++++++++++++

I know you’re disgusted, but are you saying you will not support Conservative Republicans? The problem with 3rd parties are historical, systemic, legal and practical in the USA. Think about this before you toss your vote there.

In the history of the United States, not a single third party has come close to winning the presidency, only 7 3rd parties have even won a single state’s electoral votes and only 5 third parties have won even 10% of the vote.

For instance the lack of any proportional representation prevents 3rd parties from receiving any electoral representation. This is why we see 3rd parties laboring for 50, 75 years for NOTHING.

Also, 3rd party candidates now need to be polling 15% prior to the debates to be included. That would have eliminated both Perot and Anderson from the debates they participated in in 1992 and 1980. What chance is there if we’re not even included at all in a seat at the table? Do you relish laboring and financing a national 3rd party candidate that’s marginalized? If someone can show me a strategy that would bring a 3rd party candidate to the debates - I’m willing to listen.

Better option would be work within particular states that are most amendable to 3rd party candidates and begin there to field candidates and win electorally. The Reform Party did this (MN), but didn’t have a lasting vision/energy. Without some strategy toward electoral success, forget about it, it’s just a waste of time, treasure and talent.

You can certainly advocate for changes to the laws (hmmm, tough to do without any electoral power), but I think remaking the Republican party is a better short to medium term goal, perhaps in conjunction with changing laws related to 3rd parties.

So I would ask again - what is your strategy? I really am intrigued by what people think we can actually do, and how.


219 posted on 09/25/2009 7:00:11 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


220 posted on 09/25/2009 5:04:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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