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The rules murdering our troops
New York Post ^ | September 24, 2009 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 09/24/2009 3:19:19 AM PDT by kingattax

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To: Patrsup

C-26, 3/4 Cav, 25th Inf.


21 posted on 09/24/2009 4:46:29 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

C27, 1/10 Cav, 4th Inf


22 posted on 09/24/2009 4:48:13 AM PDT by Patrsup (To stubborn to change now)
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To: Patrsup

Tank in A troop was hit with 6 rpg’s..did not burn..I liked the shape of the turret and the front..the sides had foam that absorbed the rpgs..we added extra metal plates on the bottom for mines..the track was easy to break down..we placed rpg wire in front at night, maybe 10 claymores and some trip flares..on the side we dug a hole, filled sand bags..placed a 60..I slept on a cot..when not on lp..or guard..man what a life that was..


23 posted on 09/24/2009 5:08:16 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: kingattax

Does anyone note the apparent logical inconsistency in a strategy that dictates a concentration of military effort to defend civilian enclaves, but prohibits any active engagement in the vicinity of civilians? This move to static passivity will IMO prove to be an ignominious failure. It takes our highly mobile and aggressive forces and turns them into a stationary mall security force, which in turn will result in any artillery or air support actually being expended CLOSER to sensitive civilian areas.

It simply stretches credulity that these people could conceivably be reviving distant political micro-management of tactical warfare after the experience of VN.


24 posted on 09/24/2009 5:25:28 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: bushpilot1; R. Scott

Thanks to both of you for your service. One of my missions today is to go have a word with a local film crew who was rude to a Vietnam vet at our local senior center. I hope that a brief history lesson about why we Americans are free will suffice...


25 posted on 09/24/2009 5:32:37 AM PDT by islander-11 (Save Nantucket - Vote Republican!!!)
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To: bushpilot1

That’s what I call beging a thinker.


26 posted on 09/24/2009 5:36:51 AM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: kingattax

Replace McCrystal with Petraeus.


27 posted on 09/24/2009 5:38:15 AM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: bushpilot1

We had the asbestos gloves - I don’t care how hard core a man was, they were needed for the .50. We grabbed the 60 barrel by the tripod.
I did like the flechette rounds, we had buckshot rounds for our M-79. There was one Coronado operation in the Delta in December 67 when they would have come in handy but the 155 battery we supported didn’t have them. We dropped off five 155 self propelled howitzers with 200 tons of ammo apiece. Returning the next morning with another 200 tons each and they were down to the rounds in their turrets. They had fired all night at 0-0, 0 elevation and 0 time on the fuses. The round blew when it left the barrel. They had been hit by an infantry assault - intelligence said to expect a few mines and sniper fire! I turned out to be a sizable fight and the 9th Div was hit heavily.


28 posted on 09/24/2009 5:43:49 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: bushpilot1

Addendum - we set head space and timing by simply screwing the barrel in all the way and backing it out three clicks. Worked great - we had no gauge.


29 posted on 09/24/2009 5:46:42 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: islander-11

If they’re fans of Walter Cronkite it won’t do much good.


30 posted on 09/24/2009 5:49:15 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: monocle; All
The ROE are tantamount to death sanctions and are so totally recklessly negligent to amount to grounds for impeachment.

You're being too kind to the Illegal Alien. The ROE are not "recklessly negligent." They're deliberately murderous monstrosities intentionally hatched by a communist, secret Mudslime, traitor WH occupant who bitterly hates America, Americans, and, especially, the American military, with the explicit purpose of creating a bloody meat grinder that will get as many of our fine troops and Marines killed as possible. This is why pubbies should refuse to fund any of the war unless the ROE are rescinded.

31 posted on 09/24/2009 5:50:56 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: R. Scott

DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
Headquarters, United States Army Vietnam
APO San Francisco 96375
23 August 1969

GENERAL ORDERS
NUMBER 3274

AWARD OF THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE CROSS
1. TC 320. The following AWARD is announced posthumously.

CARLSON, GARY W. CAPTAIN ARMOR United States Army
Troop C, 3d Squadron, 4th Cavalry, 25th Infantry Division

Awarded: Distinguished Service Cross
Date action: 19 June 1969
Theater: Republic of Vietnam
Reason: For extraordinary heroism in connection with military operations involving conflict with an armed hostile force in the Republic of Vietnam: Captain Carlson distinguished himself by exceptionally valorous actions on 19 June 1969 as troop commander during a reconnaissance-in-force operation. When the troop came under fire from a well-concealed enemy force, he immediately led his men in an assault on the hostile fortifications. Realizing that the crossfire was impeding the movement of his troop, he single-handedly assaulted and destroyed the most strategic hostile position. He then directed his fire against another enemy position, silencing it with hand grenades and rifle fire. Spotting a wounded comrade lying exposed to the enemy barrage, Captain Carlson braved the fusillade to move the man to safety. He then returned to the center of conflict to evacuate another casualty. As he returned to his vehicle, he was knocked to the ground by a rocket-propelled grenade which rendered his command vehicle inoperative. Braving a hail of fire to reach another vehicle, he resumed control of his troop. It was while he was directing this assault on the enemy that he was mortally wounded by enemy fire. Captain Carlson’s extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty, at the cost of his life, were in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Army.
Authority: By direction of the President under the provisions of the Act of Congress, approved 25 July 1963.

He was one of our CO’s. I was lead tank in this battle..began early in the morning and lasted during the night..


32 posted on 09/24/2009 6:04:53 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: kingattax

Sun Tzu would not do it this way.


33 posted on 09/24/2009 6:40:37 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, you stop lying; we'll stop callin' you a LIAR.)
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To: bushpilot1
Now, THAT was a Company Commander!
34 posted on 09/24/2009 10:13:05 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: MestaMachine

BUMP!


35 posted on 09/24/2009 10:13:29 AM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: kingattax; NewMediaJournal; All

9/23/09

“RULES OF ENGAGEMENT REVISITED”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2346439/posts


36 posted on 09/24/2009 10:15:51 AM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: 444Flyer

Was just getting ready to ping you


37 posted on 09/24/2009 3:44:44 PM PDT by Saoirise (Right the wrong and free SGT. Hutchins, NOW!)
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To: freema

ROE Ping


38 posted on 09/24/2009 3:55:55 PM PDT by Saoirise (Right the wrong and free SGT. Hutchins, NOW!)
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