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How secrecy over Iran's Qom nuclear facility was finally blown away
London Times ^ | 9/25/2009 | Catherine Philip

Posted on 09/25/2009 9:45:17 PM PDT by Saije

It was three years ago that American intelligence agents began picking up signs that someone was tunnelling into the side of a mountain in the desert outside the city of Qom...

Intelligence agents were on the lookout for a secret enrichment plant, reasoning that if UN inspectors were monitoring the known facility at Natanz, Tehran would look elsewhere to carry out its work.

Yesterday’s revelations about Iran’s secret uranium enrichment facility at Qom came after three years of intensive investigation and surveillance by the most trusted of America’s intelligence allies: Britain, France and Israel...

The Western allies kept quiet as the evidence mounted, determined not to disclose that they knew of the Qom plant until their case was watertight. The fiasco over intelligence leading to the Iraq invasion contributed greatly to their decision.

Last week, as Tehran finally woke up to the knowledge that the plant’s security had been breached, it rushed to declare its existence to the IAEA, hoping to pre-empt other reports and prove its openness and co-operation.

Russia was briefed on the disclosures in bilateral talks with Mr Obama at the UN General Assembly in New York... China, however, was not trusted with the information until late Thursday...

Diplomats from the three countries briefed the IAEA in Vienna yesterday morning on their findings...The IAEA officials were not the only ones who appeared blindsided by the public revelation. Mr Ahmadinejad learnt of the impending announcement at a breakfast interview with Time magazine editors in New York yesterday morning. Footage posted on the magazine’s website captures the moment he is told of what the three leaders are about to do.

Mr Ahmadinejad’s face appears to freeze, his eyes glide slowly around the room and he checks to see that the statement has been translated correctly before attempting to answer...

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; iran; irannuclear; irannukes; nuclear; nucleariran; nukes; obama; qom; qum; wmds
Here's the video of the moment when Ahmadinejad is told about Obama's impending announcement:

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/ahmadinejad-decries-obama-mistake-over-nuclear-plant/?scp=4&sq=ahmadinejad&st=cse

1 posted on 09/25/2009 9:45:17 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije

I find it a little too convenient that just one day after Bibi Netanyahu stole the show at the U.N. by attacking Iran and Iran’s appeasers, including by inference Obama, that the president comes out with his toughest-sounding statement to date.


2 posted on 09/25/2009 9:53:05 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: Saije
OK now what we going to do about it? Are we going to destroy the Iranian terrorist regime nuclear facilities or are we just going to make another tough statement? All what Obama did today is a meaningless PR stunt just to show that he is tough. The problem is that our enemies know very well who is Obama, they know that he is a coward who cannot make any tough decision.
3 posted on 09/25/2009 9:54:53 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Saije; All

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/ahmadinejad-decries-obama-mistake-over-nuclear-plant/?scp=4&sq=ahmadinejad&st=cse

Boy he REALLY got nailed on this one!!

BTTT !!


4 posted on 09/25/2009 9:56:12 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: montag813
It is a totally meaningless PR stunt by Obama. He is a coward and will not do anything to stop the Iranian terrorist regime nuclear weapon program. Sanctions are not going to stop Iran from building the nuclear weapons, only a massive air war campaign will and Obama is not going to do so because he is coward with zero leadership who cannot make any tough decisions. Our enemies including the Iranian terrorist regime know this fact very well. They know a coward when they see one.
5 posted on 09/25/2009 9:57:46 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

Even Mrs. Obama has more guts.


6 posted on 09/25/2009 9:57:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: musicman
Nailed? He is laughing at us because he knows that coward Obama is just a PR stunt guy with zero leadership and courage to do anything effective to stop the Iranian terrorist regime nuclear program.
7 posted on 09/25/2009 10:01:56 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
I agree!! But IMHO, it was funny to watch him try to come up withan answer on the fly.


8 posted on 09/25/2009 10:05:26 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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I think Obama was stung by our allies. Remember, the day before he gave his we’re all equal speech, interspersed with a thousand ‘I’s’, in an effort to illustrate his worthiness for deification.

Go Bibi and Co.!


9 posted on 09/25/2009 10:08:13 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: Saije

I think they could have done this differently...
If you’re the US and had this info., why not have Obama reveal it during his big UN speech. Gordon Brown and Sarkozy should have also confirmed and condemned it. Then Immediately push for sanctions while Russia and China are there and at least somewhat put on the spot. Why wait until today?


10 posted on 09/25/2009 10:08:47 PM PDT by SMCC1
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To: SMCC1
Why wait until today?

Because it is nothing but a PR stunt by Obama who is a coward and will not do anything effective to destroy the Iranian regime nuclear weapons which can only be stopped and destroyed by a massive air war campaign.

11 posted on 09/25/2009 10:15:14 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: FreeStateYank

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner here!

Sarkozy. He dissed Obambi for being too naive.


12 posted on 09/25/2009 10:36:36 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Saije
A little off topic, but did you notice that the reporter prefaced the two parts of his question "A. Are you....", then "and 2....
13 posted on 09/25/2009 10:36:56 PM PDT by Free_SJersey (Liberty can promote equality- manditory equality will kill liberty. CONSTITUTION FIRST!)
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To: jveritas

The three dudes on the stage event...Sarkozy, Brown and Obama...was a joke. All three showed physical signs that they were uncomfortable on the stage together. The facial expression on Obama didn’t match up with any expression that we’d seen before. I don’t know if it was a meds problem or just that he didn’t like sharing the stage with someone or what.


14 posted on 09/25/2009 10:56:48 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Sarkozy does exhibit a set of nads, from time to time.

Brownie must have enjoyed the pincher move on dear leader. Remember how he was frantically trying to meet w/ der Zero? They finally had a kitchen walk’n’chat. Betcha this was the topic.

Do I get another ding, ding, ding, lol?


15 posted on 09/25/2009 11:12:23 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: pepsionice

“All three showed physical signs that they were uncomfortable on the stage together. The facial expression on Obama didn’t match up with any expression that we’d seen before. I don’t know if it was a meds problem or just that he didn’t like sharing the stage with someone or what.”

A. He knew he’d look like the asshat he is contradicting his previous messages as the man who raised all boats, etc, etc,
B. Due to A he had no interest in being there. Think he had no choice. Had he let Sarkozy and Brown go it alone, Zero would have looked even worse than he did.
C. Any med issue is entirely possible, but when a malignant narcissist is upstaged/cornered/denied/toys taken away/called a dootie head, beware the pouting/sulkiness/tantums/meltdowns.

If he can’t be removed from office as the usurper, I’d settle for a section 8.


16 posted on 09/25/2009 11:17:54 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: pepsionice
I cannot believe that we are living the day when the French President is being much more courageous, wiser, and more realistic than the President of our beloved USA. What a shame and humiliation this man has brought on our nation. Our enemies are rejoicing everywhere.

Six years ago this left wing socialist, defeatist, and most incompetent delusional and arrogant person was walking the streets of Chicago smoking cigarettes and agitating he local community there and now he is our President, the President of the greatest and most powerful nation in history of mankind and he is working very hard not to keep our nation as such.

17 posted on 09/25/2009 11:22:00 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: FreeStateYank

Brown has no dignity. The British should be ashamed of him as we are ashamed of Obama.


18 posted on 09/25/2009 11:23:15 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: montag813

Interesting .. the three countries (and leaders) who’ve been most dissed by our Dear Leader. No wonder they all think he’s such a schmuck. He IS !!!


19 posted on 09/25/2009 11:27:19 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: jveritas

I am not sure which attitude prevails: shame or loathing. Maybe it’s a tie. Nah, think they simply loath him along with ZaNuLabour quanofest.


20 posted on 09/25/2009 11:32:44 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

The man is acting like an Obama lap dog, what does he see in this fool?


21 posted on 09/25/2009 11:42:37 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

Nothing else to cling to? Not a whole lotta love for Brownie elsewhere, lol.


22 posted on 09/25/2009 11:53:47 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: jveritas
It appears this is a very simple problem and since we are still the most powerful nation in the world it is up to us to resolve this problem presented to us by this minor player in scheme of the world. The problem can be solved in a matter of hours. Simply send over one small thermonuclear device, detonate it, melt the entire city and surrounding area and make it as unapproachable land mass for the next fifty years. If the world complains simply ask them if they would like to be next.

Then explain to the Muslim world that if any more terrorist attacks occur Mecca is next. These pesky muslims have been a thorn in the side of progress for centuries and in almost every country they control the general populace is living in the stone ages. It is time to end this charade this religion has presented to us through their very own neglect in policing their own ranks. For centuries the Christian world and the muslim world have been at war. It is time the two bullies ended their fight and we should be the ones to end it. Play an end game where you risk it all for a very attainable goal. I don't want to hear about the Russian or the Chinese either since neither has any love for the muslim religion they would both just sit back and watch and enjoy it too. It's time to end this sh(t with this bullsh*t religion for all time. We win or we die in the process. To the end.

23 posted on 09/26/2009 12:32:34 AM PDT by Plumberman27
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To: Saije; montag813; jveritas; FARS

24 posted on 09/26/2009 1:02:05 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Saije

Time for the Israeli jets to scramble. There will not be another Masada!


25 posted on 09/26/2009 1:15:56 AM PDT by UAConservative (1,212 Days until Change I Can Really Believe In--January 20, 2013)
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To: montag813

A week ago BO said Iran was not a threat.


26 posted on 09/26/2009 2:51:24 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Saije

Classic!


27 posted on 09/26/2009 3:40:13 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SMCC1
"Why wait until today?"

Because the very last thing the Traitor-in-Chief wants is results that favor the USA...

28 posted on 09/26/2009 11:38:30 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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