Posted on 09/26/2009 3:04:40 PM PDT by raptor22
Well, then... Why don't you spend a little time out of your busy life and look into it instead of prognosticating that this absurdity might somehow be justified. Your presumption that even some conservatives back business people each and everytime, right or wrong is insipid and foolish.
I'm not trying to be offensive here, but I find your efforts to preclude anyone having a valid resentment for the total lack of common sense in this and hundreds of other much like it is more than mildly offensive to most of the conservatives I've ever known!!!
I've even seen some people that own horses for occasional riding complaining about the very water used for their own horse that was brought to them by the Bureau of Reclamation and the State Water Project in the way you seem to lean toward the Delta Smelt over the daily needs of said horse. That's thinking just filled with turbidity!!!
Well not the head so much as the brain, a brain transplant from a smelt would probably increase her IQ all the way up to 10.
Can you consider the possibility that an automatic assumption that a decision is improper is just as irrational as an assumption that it is justified?
I read that back in college, seams I remember that Risener recanted right before he passed away, said he got alot of stuff wrong. I think C_O was the one to tell me that.
Good to rant with ya like old times. Spend most of my time on the financial blogs. Definitely helped us plan for this recession. It ain't near over, despite all the hype from the drive-by media.
No, I'm saying that the amendment process is part of unavoidable costs no matter what irrigation method is used. And you talk about high costs - what would it cost to do formal raised bed weeding and clay breaking on ten thousand or more plants?
As far as I know, raised bed gardening methods are not used at all for tractor-maintenanced multi-thousand crop fields, despite the somewhat mounded irrigation beds between tracks. The term has several meanings, such as double-dug French raised beds and other wood-braced highly-sand-amended and partial hydroponic methods. And none of them have anything to do with the requirements of large-scale agriculture.
Whatever. Think what you want, your straw men bore me.
It so seems to be that everything has been turned on its head. The government used to work with businesses to provide great efficiencies that were difficult if not impossible to achieve without a partnership.
Now it seems government is only interested in blocking any gains and enriching cronies through surreptitious means.
Have you read the law reviews of CA EnvironMental Laws and Water Law??? You will be shocked at the totally slanted nature of the laws and the totally irrational decisions made by various Superior courts that were shopped by EnvironMental litigators and allegators to establish some absolutely lewd and obscene precedents in water and environmental laws in CA!!!
Feed your mind some facts, rather than conclusion jumping and suppositions... Thank you very much!!!
Yep, regulation falls heaviest on the smallest. Too big to fail has got to go, along with all the enviro laws and excess regulation that go with it. What a racket these lawyer bastards have set up for themselves; sue honest entrepeneurs and get the taxpayers to foot the bill.
****No, I’m saying that the amendment process is part of unavoidable costs no matter what irrigation method is used. And you talk about high costs - what would it cost to do formal raised bed weeding and clay breaking on ten thousand or more plants?
As far as I know, raised bed gardening methods are not used at all for tractor-maintenanced multi-thousand crop fields, despite the somewhat mounded irrigation beds between tracks. The term has several meanings, such as double-dug French raised beds and other wood-braced highly-sand-amended and partial hydroponic methods. And none of them have anything to do with the requirements of large-scale agriculture.****
You are making my point for me. The cost of the amendment process over an area the size of the Delta changes dramatically the more you must truck in. The more sand etc. you need the more it costs. You need less of it with aerial spraying than with drip. You get more production with aerial for field crops which is the primary usage in the Delta. This means more food per acre which means less acreage needed and more food per gallon of water.
So leave the drip for the co-op and back yarders unless the soil is already sufficiently porous.
Now, just as the financial world has been sent to hell by Jimmy Carter's Community Reinvestment Act fallout, I find Obamalama trying to push the "Dead Kennedy's" government take over of my danged business AGAIN!!! Now I'm too old, fat and decrepit to run for office again... dangit!!!
They can turn on you in a New York minute!!! The old asiatic curse was more than "may you live in interesting times," it went on to say "and come to the attention of powerful people!"
I used to be horrified by that until I found out that they do it to the taxpayers too by doing the very same thing to all the little local government entities from cities to counties to all sorts of special districts like water and irrigationdistricts, fire districts, et al...
It's an enormous ongoing rip-off bigger than "Oil for Food" in Iraq before the war!!! Now, bigger than "Porkulus" and "Tarpulus" and all the other bail-outs!!!
Don't be too surprised if the blue dogs back away from the gov't option. IMHO the prez will have to settle for alot less then what he set out to get, and if he don't back down off the nanny state option, he may wind up with nothing. Too bad the (R)'s won't come up with an alternative to reign in some of the abuses, like pre-existing conditions, lack of interstate competition, malpractice abuse by ambulance chasers etc.
You do know that is how the Marxist operate. Ask for a zillion and be willing to settle for a million... on the first go around. Then they come back for 2 zillion of what’s left and settle for 5 million and so on...
They have come up with those alternatives and MORE! No body needs to listen to them because they don’t have the votes anyway and the DBMedia sure won’t give it any coverage or use it to challenge the alleged affirmative action POTUS!!!
****I used to be horrified by that until I found out that they do it to the taxpayers too by doing the very same thing to all the little local government entities from cities to counties to all sorts of special districts like water and irrigationdistricts, fire districts, et al...
It’s an enormous ongoing rip-off bigger than “Oil for Food” in Iraq before the war!!! Now, bigger than “Porkulus” and “Tarpulus” and all the other bail-outs!!!****
The problem with this arrangement they have set up for themselves is that they are reducing manufacturing jobs which is the backbone of the economy. It is not sustainable practice for them to reduce wealth to the point that the lawyers et al have nobody left to squeeze. They will lose the cushy jobs and have to find some other scam if they don’t want to work.
I know how they operate. But this time they have seriously under-estimated the backlash that is happening in this country. Not covering the 9:12 tea party was a serious mistake, and IMHO has gotten alot of people off the couch and into the street. It is one thing to disagree, it is another thing to ignore and dismiss people as racists. That pisses folks off.
The smelt is protected by Federal Environmental Protection laws. Arnold cannot override Federal EPA law. Federal trumps State law; Arnold is the state gov., not POTUS.
Judi
****You do know that is how the Marxist operate***
Have you seen this clip of the FBI informant that infiltrated the Weather Underground back in the 70’s?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
They are planning to disrupt EVERYTHING and burden EVERYTHING to finally collapse this government like mistletoe finally suck the life out of an overly infested oak tree. Then they will have "returned the wealth to it's rightful owners!"
They started by deliberately overburdening the welfare system. That's how ACORN got it's start, as a "Welfare Rights Group." Somewhere on FR you can find a link to the video by Glen Beck that exposes the founder of ACORN and gives it's malignant history!!!
Obama was one of their litigators that intimidated agencies and corporations on everything they could think up!!! It's insidious!!!
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