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To: RegulatorCountry

So far as I know, the Constitution does not define terms.

The courts have given definition and meaning to many of the clauses of the Constitution. So far as I know they have not directly tackled the meaning of natural born citizen.

Absent some writing from the Framers as to the meaning of Natural Born in the Constitution, I would assume we then look to English Common Law at the time. It is my understanding that anyone born in the empire was a British citizen, unless they were born to a foreign diplomat.


73 posted on 09/29/2009 9:29:08 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Mr. Blonde
Why would a group of men, who had risked everything for their Revolution against the British monarchy, give any credence whatsoever to laws pertaining to subjects of the King Of England? American citizens, sailors and soldiers were subject to arrest by the British, right up to the War of 1812. They certainly were not going to continue right on recognizing that particular definition.

This is just the most astonishing claim that I've heard in association with this issue. Not that you're the only one to have made it; you're not. But, it's just nonsensical.

It's Vattel who laid out the requirements for natural born citizenship in a constitutional republic. Samuel Adams, John Quincy Adams and James Otis are recorded as having cited Vattel's Law Of Nations as early as 1764. Benjamin Franklin held Vattel in very high esteem. Our first Chief Justice John Jay likewise.

The meaning of the Constitutional term of art "natural born citizen" was clearly known and understood by the framers; they had a copy of Vattel with them at the original Constitutional Convention.

78 posted on 09/29/2009 10:11:45 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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