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I think it's despicable to try to rewrite the Word of God to support a particular political point of view, be it right or left.
1 posted on 10/06/2009 4:41:06 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I think it's despicable to try to rewrite the Word of God to support a particular political point of view, be it right or left.

I agree. I would really like to see an example of a part they have a problem with and how they would change it.

2 posted on 10/06/2009 4:51:53 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I don't believe I've ever quoted the bible in an online forum before. But this one cries out to be mentioned; my childhood pastor referred to it as the "first copyright."
Revelation 22:18-19 (King James Version)

18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


3 posted on 10/06/2009 4:55:04 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

You are 100% correct.

Now if I re-wrote the Bible I might leave out all my foibles and proclivities then, of course, I would be perfect and I could look down on everyone who wasn’t the same as me - wouldn’t that be just dandy!

Of course I would go to hell under those circumstances!

Mel


4 posted on 10/06/2009 4:55:39 AM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The people promoting the "Conservative Bible" would probably be more comfortable studying the fairy tales of Ayn Rand.

Of course, the "Green Bible" is just as ridiculous and blasphemous.

The truth of the Bible can make every one of us uncomfortable. It is up to us to change our lives to conform to it, not to change it to conform to our lives.

6 posted on 10/06/2009 5:06:43 AM PDT by Route797
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
While more modern scholarship from older biblical texts may have produced more accurate translations, The King James version still has the best English language. I agree that it is despicable to twist the word of any Bible translation to suite political points of view.

Gee I wonder if there will ever be a politically correct translation of the Koran?

8 posted on 10/06/2009 5:24:33 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Acts

4:32
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
4:33
And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
4:34
Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
4:35
And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need

Where have I heard the 4:35 before? hmmmm,


15 posted on 10/06/2009 8:34:28 PM PDT by socialismislost
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

IF liberals have deliberately corrupted the Bible in provable, public, examinable ways, why not have an ...

1) annotated
2) public
3) corrected

... Bible? I trust only the King James translators to have done a non “Spin Zone” edition. Every translation to English since I suspect has had deliberate tamperings.

I don’t agree or disagree with the “NetBible”, but check out Psalms 22:16 http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=Psa&chapter=22&verse=16. It provides many translations, AND if I am not mistaken, they even had forums where everyone could opine on verses, and I was led to http://www.messianicart.com/chazak/Handbook.pdf where I learned a lot about attempts to corrupt the Bible.

In short, maybe we could ...

1) use the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagint, and the best reasoning for what other sources to use for the Old Testament
2) use the best reasoning for what New Testament sources to use
3) use the best reasoning for what verses to include or leave out
4) justify every decision PUBLICLY, and what competing reasons were left out, for all the world to see
5) use modern, accurate language

Liberals have no qualms with corrupting the Word of God, because they think of it as a football by which to lead Christians. Shameful.


18 posted on 10/07/2009 4:42:22 PM PDT by ROTB ("By any means necessary"=EvilExcusd "The urge 2 save humanity is [often a ruse] for the urge 2 rule")
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

That’s absolutely correct.

The best translation would try to get the writer’s thoughts as closely as possible to what they origianlly were.

My bet is that such a Bible translation would still be conservative enough to suit all but the terminally crazy.


19 posted on 10/07/2009 5:11:18 PM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
"Others [which] assert that eco-neglect violates Jesus' call to care for the least among us: it is the poor who inhabit the floodplains."

Oh??

NIV Matthew 7:21-28
21. "Not everyone who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22. Many will say to me on that day, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
23. Then I will tell them plainly, `I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
24. "Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
25. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock.
26. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand.
27. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash."

20 posted on 10/08/2009 3:50:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
 
I think it's despicable to try to rewrite the Word of God to support a particular political point of view, be it right or left.
 
...or MORMON!

 
 

 
 

Joseph’s so-called “translation         vs        the King James Version           






 

JST GENESIS 50: 24-38

24 And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die, and go unto my fathers; and I go down to my grave with joy. The God of my father Jacob be with you, to deliver you out of affliction in the days of your bondage; for the Lord hath visited me, and I have obtained a promise of the Lord, that out of the fruit of my loins, the Lord God will raise up a righteous branch out of my loins; and unto thee, whom my father Jacob hath named Israel, a prophet; (not the Messiah who is called Shilo;) and this prophet shall deliver my people out of Egypt in the days of thy bondage.

25 And it shall come to pass that they shall be scattered again; and a branch shall be broken off, and shall be carried into a far country; nevertheless they shall be remembered in the covenants of the Lord, when the Messiah cometh; for he shall be made manifest unto them in the latter days, in the Spirit of power; and shall bring them out of darkness into light; out of hidden darkness, and out of captivity unto freedom.

26 A seer shall the Lord my God raise up, who shall be a choice seer unto the fruit of my loins.

27 Thus saith the Lord God of my fathers unto me, A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren.

28 And he shall bring them to the knowledge of the covenants which I have made with thy fathers; and he shall do whatsoever work I shall command him.

29 And I will make him great in mine eyes, for he shall do my work; and he shall be great like unto him who I have said I would raise up unto you, to deliver my people, O house of Israel, out of the land of Egypt; for a seer will I raise up to deliver my people out of the land of Egypt; and he shall be called Moses. And by this name he shall know that he is of thy house; for he shall be nursed by the king’s daughter, and shall be called her son.

30 And again, a seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and unto him will I give power to bring forth my word unto the seed of thy loins; and not to the bringing forth of my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them in the last days;

31 Wherefore the fruit of thy loins shall write, and the fruit of the loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of the loins of Judah, shall grow together unto the confounding of false doctrines, and laying down of contentions, and establishing peace among the fruit of thy loins, and bringing them to a knowledge of their fathers in the latter days; and also to the knowledge of my covenants, saith the Lord.

32 And out of weakness shall he be made strong, in that day when my work shall go forth among all my people, which shall restore them, who are of the house of Israel, in the last days.

33 And that seer will I bless, and they that seek to destroy him shall be confounded; for this promise I give unto you; for I will remember you from generation to generation; and his name shall be called Joseph, and it shall be after the name of his father; and he shall be like unto you; for the thing which the Lord shall bring forth by his hand shall bring my people unto salvation.

34 And the Lord sware unto Joseph that he would preserve his seed forever, saying, I will raise up Moses, and a rod shall be in his hand, and he shall gather together my people, and he shall lead them as a flock, and he shall smite the waters of the Red Sea with his rod.

35 And he shall have judgment, and shall write the word of the Lord. And he shall not speak many words, for I will write unto him my law by the finger of mine own hand. And I will make a spokesman for him, and his name shall be called Aaron.

36 And it shall be done unto thee in the last days also, even as I have sworn. Therefore, Joseph said unto his brethren, God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land, unto the land which he sware unto Abraham, and unto Isaac, and to Jacob.

37 And Joseph confirmed many other things unto his brethren, and took an oath of the children of Israel, saying unto them, God will surely visit you, and ye shall carry up my bones from hence.

38 So Joseph died when he was an hundred and ten years old; and they embalmed him, and they put him in a coffin in Egypt; and he was kept from burial by the children of Israel, that he might be carried up and laid in the sepulchre with his father. And thus they remembered the oath which they sware unto him.

KJV  GENESIS 50: 24-26

 24.  And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

               and God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land unto the land which he sware to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.


 25.  And Joseph took an oath of the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you, and ye shall carry up my bones from hence.


 26.  So Joseph died, being an hundred and ten years old: and they embalmed him, and he was put in a coffin in Egypt.
 


21 posted on 10/08/2009 3:53:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

self ping


33 posted on 10/08/2009 3:28:30 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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