Posted on 10/06/2009 6:17:42 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
You have no idea whatsoever whether he offered his strong opinion or not. Should he have made a public announcement the first time declaring that he is totally against his daughter having a child, just so we’d all feel better? We don’t know what kind of family discussions were had.
His daughter is an independent, financially secure adult. She was raised in the same household as her sister, who is straight and married. Yes, it is extremely complicated, I know I would hate to be in their position but they have dealt with is as a family. I am sure there has been more soul searching between them then we would ever know.
And last but not least, an innocent baby is being brought into it. As a family I am sure they will be huge influences on both children. Ideal? No. Would I want it in my family? No. But I would still love my granchild and make sure I was part of it’s life.
Thank you DesertRenegade, I was going to say somthing similar myself.
I might add to some of haircutters other, frankly bizare, comments in other posts.
“none of your business” “this is a private affair”
Huh? her father was Vice President of the USA and still a very prominent conservative politician, or were you unaware of that? The gay right activists make this a cause celeb and use this to further their immoral attack on traditional views on marriage and the family (hey look! fathers not needed!). It is certainly NOT a private affair so why is it only those who find this morally wrong and think it if interest to know who the real father of the child is who should have no view or comment on the matter? One of the main aims of socialist/liberals is to destroy the family by portraying fathers as irrelevant to family life you play right into their hands with you attitude. What is the father (or fathers) of these children going to do as they grow up? will he become involved in the life of HIS children or should he stay out of it as an irrelevance?
Dick Cheney's grandchildren by his homosexual daughter have a father - somewhere. This father was willfully, deliberatedly excised from the baby's life after his "services" were extracted. What does this tell the child who will eventually realize this? I want Dick's answer to this questions. What does this complicity tell society and its children?
It is something that has to be dealt with within their family. Do you cut all ties with your child? Know that you have severed ties and find out you have grandchildren, who you will never have contact with because you believe it is evil. Does walking away from evil stop it? We don’t know what happened between father and daughter. Maybe his absolute love for his daughter took precedent over his moral conviction. When comparing losing her or accepting her, acceptence outweighed the loss.
I have 3 boys, we are an intact family, yet, my brothers, and dad have a huge influence on my boys life, along with a lot of other fine men, who are part of our extended family and close friends. Maybe in their minds it is better to be an all around cohesive unit for the sake of the children, then to allow their grandchildren to be outcasts because of the choice of their daughter.
So, as a prominent figure in the Conservative, traditional family values, you believe that Dick Cheney should come out and deny his daughter and grandchildren. What do you say about Sarah and Bristol Palin? While I don’t agree with homosexuals having children, I believe unwed teenage pregnancy does much more to break down the traditional family, since it is so prevalent. Lets look to the future and see what poor Tripp will be able to read and hear about all of the nasty things his own Dad has said about his mother and his grandparents.
You should try reading the original article before commenting... the claim is that the Mary and her lesbian partner are expecting another child... they have not had any children together and they never can and it seems no one is allowed to ask who the father of the child is or what part he will play in his children’s upbringing? Apparently this is an off limits subject for anyone with conservative/traditional views on marriage as it is no ones business and an entirely private matter. Oh private that is apart from all the supportive gay friendly coverage in national and international news. So do you think the father should have no contact with his children? I guess the fact that the child has an actual father is a bit of an inconvenient truth.
I did read the original article!!! I am against homosexuals having children, in an ideal world all children would be born in two family households, with a father and a mother! I don’t see the point in piling on Dick Cheney and his wife! That is a huge cross that they must bear with their family. I don’t know the dynamics, I don’t know what was said. I do know that I would NEVER EVER condemn a baby for the choices of their parent, I do know that I would want an open line of communication so that maybe, just maybe that small impressionable child would have exposure to another set of values more conducive to tradition.
Where do I pile on Dick Cheney and I have never even mentioned his wife? It was claimed, by hairdresser, this is a private matter and no one is to comment on it. I point out it is not a private matter it is international news used as propaganda by gay activists and I repeat my original question which I think is very relevant, who is the father of the children it is CERTAINLY NOT Mary’s “partner” as claimed in the article.
My gosh, what is wrong with you people??? I have teenagers, I have done the best that I can in not only telling them about morals but practicing them since they were born!!! I am also not naive enough to sit and toot my own horn because they don’t have children of their own, they have not been to jail, they don’t do drugs, etc. I will never ever say never. Once my child leaves my house I pray that the things they have learned while here follow them. Some things will take hold immediately, others may take time and quite a few lessons will be learned because of mistakes.
But for folks to sit here and go on and on about single parents and lack of fathers being the bane on society you have to acknowledge that unwed teen pregnancy is just as bad, if not worse because it is so much more prevalent, most teenage girls don’t have the support system, which in turn, keeps them in poverty. Most teenage girls don’t finish school and go on to be self supporting adults. Most teenage girls tire of their babies when they realize it inhibits their social life and grandma and grandpa care for them. Most teenage girls don’t have the mental maturity to deal with every day life!
We all have our crosses to bear with our families, we do what we think is right for us. In reading this article, I don’t see where it says “Lynn and Dick Cheney are proud to announce the coming birth of a new grandchild” sent out as postcards. A reporter got wind of it and reported it, that is hardly them jumping for joy and giving a front page interview in People Magazine.
For all we know, they know the father of the child. Are you willing to say that you are 100% sure that they don’t know who the father is?
Let me rephrase the last line: And shaking one’s fist in defiance at God in order to justify their own unnatural sexual perversions doesn’t make it all OK...
No and bravo for you saying so. I have criticized Ingraham on that awful choice and hypocrisy many times here (usually to deaf or offended ears).
While Mary’s partner CERTAINLY is not the father of the child, the baby is CERTAINLY Dick and Lynn Cheney’s biological grandchild.
Not necessarily. Have you heard about Cat Cora (food network) and her children? She had her partners fertilized egg(s) implanted into her womb. I think they did a vice versa as well. I’m not saying that’s the case with Mary Cheney.
I don’t think this is a good thing at all. And I want to say ‘to each his/her own.’ Really. I don’t wanna know some of the details of people’s lives.
Since my remarks are ‘frankly bizarre’ I will no longer bother to post on FR.
I am very aware of what Vice President Cheney position in OUR government was and frankly I'm tired of bash Bush, Cheney and all other Conservatives and trying to destroy their Private Lives.
grant you I am not a college graduate, just an old lady living here in the USA in the Laurel Highlands, but I've Never been told I was BIZARE until now..I've owned my own salon and hair-dressed for 42 years, somewhere along the way I must have done something right.
P.S. I have raised two college grads, one with a Master and both have successful lives,
So who is the lucky Bastard.....er Baster.....
Dick and Liz have been as welcoming to Mary’s child as they have been to the children of their other daughter. It has astounded many on the left, who continue the fiction that conservatives hate gays.
Is he packing or what ?
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