Apache Pilots Shocked by Size of Attack on Afghan Outpost

ABC ^ | Afghanistan, Oct. 8, 2009 | KAREN RUSSO

[mad_as_he$$]

Khe San was a firebase on a small hill (compared to mountains around it. but some distance away)at the end of a row of interlocking firebases. They were hammered for days by a larger force. One of the problems was that the road was lousy and reinforcements could not get there fast enough. The NVA was swatting helos from the sky like flies on a porch in the South. The Military Channel runs a great step by step show on it about every six months.

[VOA]

The pilot of an Apache gunship, who flew to the rescue of U.S.
soldiers nearly overrun at a remote outpost in Afghanistan last
weekend, told ABC News today that he had "never seen that large
of a force" attacking coalition troops in Afghanistan.

In the words of a guy with a much higher IQ than Obama:
"Pitiful, pitiful, pitiful".
(an occassional comment by Jed Clampett on "The Beverly Hillbillies")

Because a few years back under Dubya, that would have been
"a target rich environment" giving an opportunity to
KILL THE B@$TARDS!!!!!

Now Obama starves our military.

I wouldn't be suprised that Obama's rules of engagement forbid
use of Claymores and land mines to help our small units defend themselves.

Of course, napalm must be a no-go as well.

[hinckley buzzard]

Isn’t that what happened at Khe San?

Khe Sanh was a firebase/ LZ on a hilltop. This sounds more like Dien Bien Phu.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Add ZULU DAWN with Burt Lancaster to this list! It depicts the battle of Isladwana just before Rook’s Drift.

[okie01]

We will not do this but a more “ruthless or nasty” approach might be called for.

Currently, wee're fighting six or seven (or eight) different factions in Afghanistan.

The only faction we truly have a beef with is the Taliban -- because they harbored al-Qaeda.

I say:

a. Pay off every warlord in the region.

b. Make it clear there is a bounty on every Taliban head.

c. Exterminate the remaining Taliban. Show no mercy.

d. Declare victory and leave.

Our point will have been made: harbor al-Qaeda or anybody else who has offensive aspirations against the United States...and you will be exterminated. Without mercy.

If we have to, we will come back and do it again.

They'll get the message.

[montomike]

I watched a Discover channel on Isladwana. The Zulus were hepped up on some sort of magic potion and the British fired so much that the smoke from their weapons obscured their view so much that the Zulus were able to come on in through the smoke and wreak some havok.

Fascinating. Queen Vickie’s little wars. They were trying to maintain the empire.

My grandfather was a Colour Seargeant for the Norfolk Regiment during the Boer Wars before being posted to Ireland to suppress my father’s people.

[topfile]

This tragedy happened Saturday...What do suppose Obama was doing the day before on Friday?

That's right giving Gen. McChrystal what for.

[Fu-fu2]

What a picture...worth a thousand words. Obama stares at his hands. McChrystal looks intently, trying to make eye contact...

[GeronL]

Haven’t you heard?? Obama is going to make nice with the Taliban, they ain’t the enemy anymore. Sure their killing our guys all over but darn it they just want to oppress women and shut down or blow up girls schools, they ain’t OUR enemies after all.

I don’t know if its true or a trial balloon, but it makes me mad. I think the Generals should all quit if that happens and nobody should sign up for the armed forces.

[ArmstedFragg]

Sounds like Nam all over.

Yeah. The final French battles. Fortunately, air power's become a little more helpful since then.

[MHGinTN]

The firefight, which killed eight U.S. troops and left 24 soldiers wounded, came as President Obama is formulating fiddles DRIBBLES.

[XenaLee]

"Well ... I think the hope and change isn't working."

Oh...it's working all right. Just...not for us Americans.

[TomasUSMC]

Assfagistan is much easier to win than Vietnam, but since we have a moslem terrorist loving baby killing closet homoCrackFREAK as President, our objective is to kill off Americans.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

I wouldn't be suprised that Obama’s rules of engagement forbid
use of Claymores and land mines to help our small units defend themselves.

Of course, napalm must be a no-go as well.
~~~
IIRC they haven't been able to use any of those since

day one in A-Stan,,,

I don't the guys can use beehive rounds either,,,ain't sure.

Apparently they didn't have much wire if any,,,

The “fast-movers” could have gotten there much quicker but

it seems like under the ROE they couldn't use them,,,

Kluster Foxtrot!!!

[terycarl]

I have said from the beginning of this debacle....bigger bombs and more of them. An Attack will take place against us and the report will say that the insurgents retreated into the mountains....I would make 25 miles of the surrounding mountains a hell hole. Napalm is a nasty weapon but it gets your attention....and we have a lot of it already paid for.....bunker buster bombs, neutron bombs, whatever.....it’s time to draw attention to the fact that we are not to be toyed with....ever

[DirtyHarryY2K]

I seen a report that said 100+ enemy killed And toward the end of the battle some of the wounded US troops refused medivac so they could stay and continue the fight!

[Palin Republic]

>So we either get out or prepare to spends decades, lives and money there.

Obama will opt for the worst of both worlds: spends decades, lives, and money there, then get out when it inevitably turns into Grozny on steroids to the power of Tet on crack.

[rlmorel]

No. We controlled the high ground around Khe Sanh with, I think three outposts. They were held by those Marines through vicious fighting.

We completely destroyed the NVA around Khe Sanh. The news idiots made it sound like the NVA could have overrun Khe Sanh anytime they wanted.

Nothing was further from the truth. They had us outnumbered from 3-1 to 5-1 depending on the source, and they had casualties of 15.000 to our 4,000.

I just finished reading a great book, but dense as hell: “The Big Story” by Peter Braestrup.

[rlmorel]

Boy, you sure read that correctly. He can’t make eye contact.

Eye contact is for the stupid liberal rubes who are going to throw their underwear at the rock star President...

[Reagan is King]

Well said. Whomever selected that base placement has no business being involved in any type of military planning. Such a basic and obvious mistake of placing a military base at the bottom of a rocky mountain that you don't even control and is full of excellent firing points is inexcusable and cost the lives of several heroes. I'm very proud of the troops but thoroughly disgusted they were put in that position.