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Islam's two paths
National Post ^ | Oct. 08, 2009 | Salim Mansur

Posted on 10/08/2009 7:15:16 PM PDT by nuconvert

In an authoritative essay published in The Wall Street Journal, Abdurrahman Wahid, the first president of newly democratic Indonesia from 1999 to 2001, described what constitutes "right Islam" as distinct from "wrong Islam."

He warned people of good will to recognize that "a terrible danger threatens humanity." This peril, Wahid wrote, emanates from an "extreme and perverse ideology in the minds of fanatics," specifically "Wahhabi/Salafist ideology -- a minority fundamentalist religious cult fueled by [Saudi] petrodollars."

The importance of this essay, and the warning in it, comes from the prestige of the author. Abdurrahman Wahid is an Islamic scholar who heads Nahdatul Ulama (NU), the largest Muslim organization in the largest Muslim country -- Indonesia, with a population of some 240-million. NU membership is estimated at 40-million, and the mainstream brand of Sunni Islam its leadership preaches and practices is open, tolerant, inclusive, moderate, respectful of local traditions, embracing of Sufilearning and spirituality, and compatible with the modern world of science and democracy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: indonesia; islam; islamists; moderateislam; salafism; salimmansur; wahhabism
The above is an excerpt from Salim Mansur's new book:

Islam's Predicament: Perspectives of a Dissident Muslim

From the preface:

"with 9/11, there remains the urgent need for Muslims to confront and repudiate those who have perverted their faith, or hijacked it, and made of Islam an ideology of bigotry and war (jihad). Islam’s Predicament is a small effort in that urgently needed larger and wider struggle against radical Muslims, or Islamists, who have wrecked the Muslim world and have spread fear and violence indiscriminately among non-Muslims.” - Salim Mansur

1 posted on 10/08/2009 7:15:16 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

“Islam’s Two Paths”? Hmmm, interesting. Since Islam denies Christ is the Son of God, that He died on the cross for all sins and then rose from the dead, I’d say the only path Islam is on is the path to destruction.

Without Christ there is no salvation. Islam denies that. You do the math.

Kharis13


3 posted on 10/08/2009 7:22:59 PM PDT by Kharis13
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To: nuconvert

Islam is a violent religion. There is a standing command to conquer and kill the infidels. This author is the one who is perverting Islam.

Takeyya


4 posted on 10/08/2009 7:27:09 PM PDT by Tramonto (Live Free of Die)
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To: Kharis13

Have many Jewish friends?


5 posted on 10/08/2009 7:27:43 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Tramonto

Read a little about the author


6 posted on 10/08/2009 7:29:10 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

This sounds good, But is too little too late.

It has been Nine years since 9-11.

Moderate Islam is to Jihadism as Smallpox is to Ebola.

Both of them will kill you, one just takes a little longer.

Read the Koran, The Hadith and study The Sunnah.

They all call the Faithful to Kill or Subjugate the Infidel.

There can be no Peace with Islam, Only Death or Enslavement.

This might be resolved by the Umma, But to do so they would have to disavow the Koran Etc.

Thanks, Salim but I am sure you now have a Fatwa on your head and will soon be gone.


7 posted on 10/08/2009 7:30:41 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: nuconvert
Purple Nazis, Green Nazis, Red Nazis.

Irrelevant window dressing details.

No dead Muslim ever blew up any kids.

I say we play it safe on this one.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

8 posted on 10/08/2009 7:34:16 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: SwedeBoy2

The book is a collection of essays Salim Mansur has written over the past 10yrs


9 posted on 10/08/2009 7:39:06 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

What Islam needs to do is repudiate polygamy.

Then maybe their people would not be so inbred and impoverished. Then maybe most of the males would have a legitimate right to exist, i.e. find a wife and have children. The mathematical imperative of polygamy is extra males, too many children of dominant males, inbreeding problems and impoverishment due to excessive family size.

A successful Palestinian male is expected to have 50 children to have any standing in society. That is 12.25 each from 4 allowed wives. This in the biggest welfare state on the planet!

There is very little chance each successive generation could possibly hand down prosperity given the geometrical explosion of descendants of one single grandfather, even if half the children are eliminated from inheriting because of their gender, as is the practice: 25 rich sons of one man have 25 sons themselves, which is 625 male grandchildren. Extend this one more generation of males having 25 sons and you have over 15,625 male descendants from one great grandfather.

More conservatives need to understand and condemn the sick practice of polygamy. We all must condemn this moral, cultural, financial, genetic and gender depravity. It is not just a Hefner thing; it is a 1300 year practice that is demographic suicide.


10 posted on 10/08/2009 8:28:20 PM PDT by bukkdems (When we end our dependence on oil, what will we do without plastic?)
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To: nuconvert

well, it’s a start at least.


11 posted on 10/08/2009 10:05:30 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Isn't the Golden Mean the secret to something," I parried? "Yes," Blue replied. "Mediocrity.")
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To: nuconvert

btt


12 posted on 10/09/2009 6:11:25 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Thanks for the heads-up. I've skimmed through Salim Mansur's The Shahids: Islam and Suicide Attacks. I'll be on the lookout for this book.
13 posted on 10/10/2009 1:03:06 AM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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