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Soldier suspended from school (Eagle Scout, Honors Student Had Pocket Knife Locked in Car)
WTEN - Albany, NY ^ | 10/8/2009 | MARK O'BRIEN

Posted on 10/09/2009 7:48:04 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders

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To: ReagansRaiders

I’d encourage Matthew not to take this too personally. The actions of the school administrators say much more about them and their mindless bureaucracy than it does about him.


141 posted on 10/09/2009 9:42:40 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ReagansRaiders; ~Kim4VRWC's~
Prayers for your godson.

They are disarming America too!

142 posted on 10/09/2009 9:43:50 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: ReagansRaiders
"Eagle Scout Matthew has been suspended for having a two inch long weapon safely locked in his car.

Now you all pick up your baseball bats and go play outside."

143 posted on 10/09/2009 9:47:04 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs)
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To: Marysecretary
Well, I suppose you could use the handle to poke someone in the eyes.

But that's what fingers are for!

144 posted on 10/09/2009 9:51:52 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Liberty Ship
Angelina Bergin, principal of Lansingburgh High School

In just about every one of these "zero tolerance" cases gone wild there is almost always a stupid woman principal in charge.

145 posted on 10/09/2009 9:54:13 AM PDT by metalurgist (Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't go without a fight.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
“Truely another hate crime by sniveling liberals against an outstanding citizen.”

Well spoken. That Eagle Scout might have used that 2” blade to cut the seatbelt of someone trapped in an overturned car! We can't have that!

146 posted on 10/09/2009 9:59:51 AM PDT by Gabrial (ObamaCare: The efficiency of the Post Office, the compassion of the IRS, the costs of the Pentagon)
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To: RKV

When I was in school, half the cars in the parking lot had guns in them...hunting rifles and shotguns. You couldn’t bring one in to the building, of course, but all you had to do was look out the front window of the high school and you’d see rows of battered old pickups with rifles and shotguns firmly seated in gun racks in the back windows.

Of course, that was in rural Virginia in the early 1980s, where the first day of deer season every November was cause for about half the student body to skip...mostly excused, with notes from their parents saying “I’m taking so-and-so hunting today.”

}:-)4


147 posted on 10/09/2009 10:02:58 AM PDT by Moose4 (Ted Kennedy: "If they bring up Camelot, we get to bring up the lady in the lake.")
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To: ClearCase_guy
I have an even better idea...

Suggest that students in the school begin calling the police with complaints that they are afraid of ordinary items being used as weapons: books, chairs, pens and pencils, belts, etc.

Have the students make these calls consecutively throughout the school day, starting about an hour apart. Figure out how long it takes for the administration and police to process a single complaint, and adjust the timeline accordingly so the police get about 10 minutes away from the school before the next complaint gets called in.

When the threats of punishment for "false reporting" start coming from the authorities, the students should complain that they fell threatened by the dangerous and oppressive atmosphere with so many potential weapons around, and increase the amount of complaints. And always mention the zero tolerance policy.

I predict that the student will be able to shut down the school inside of a week.

And the more students that become involved, the less likely anyone will be (further) prosecuted -- including this impressive young man. And the sooner this zero-tolerance policy will be removed.

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  1. Buy 50 cheap knives
  2. Wait for a hot day
  3. Go to the parking lot and find cars with any windows cracked open to prevent heat buildup
  4. Insert knife, letting it fall into plain sight inside the car
  5. Notify police that a large number of students and administrators are in violation
  6. Repeat as necessary

148 posted on 10/09/2009 10:10:43 AM PDT by ConservativeWebServant (Truth is true, even if you don't believe it...)
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To: RKV

Lets do the Chicagowanda test - if you are black honor roll student in Chicago, which instrument presents the greatest threat:

A. Railroad Tie
B. Tire Iron
C. Pocket Knife
D. Glock 9mm

This test will be graded on a curve so that nobodies self esteem will be molested.


149 posted on 10/09/2009 10:11:52 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

“the navy to port” HEY!


150 posted on 10/09/2009 10:17:12 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: ReagansRaiders

Be certain your godson applies to WPoint as he planned, and states clearly what occurred. I suspect that the admissions board will see this as a positive instead of a negative incident.


151 posted on 10/09/2009 10:18:51 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: ReagansRaiders

Just when you think public schools couldn’t be more absurd, they outdo themselves.


152 posted on 10/09/2009 10:43:15 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: ReagansRaiders

I actually teach at West Point. I forwarded the article to my boss who has friends at admissions. He is going to try to make them aware of the issue and hopefully this incident can be put in context and waivered if necessary. They will still have to make their own determination of course.


153 posted on 10/09/2009 10:45:05 AM PDT by sapper1975
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To: ClearCase_guy

Hehe. I like how you think. ;-)


154 posted on 10/09/2009 10:52:26 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('They're drinking the juice.'~ Barack H. Obama)
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To: ReagansRaiders

These school officals are complete idiots.


155 posted on 10/09/2009 10:55:46 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: sapper1975
I actually teach at West Point. I forwarded the article to my boss who has friends at admissions. He is going to try to make them aware of the issue and hopefully this incident can be put in context and waivered if necessary. They will still have to make their own determination of course.

Bless you!

156 posted on 10/09/2009 11:00:43 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: sapper1975

Awesome!


157 posted on 10/09/2009 11:01:48 AM PDT by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Ridiculous...

...and why would the school go into the young mans car without cause? Do they have that much time on their hands? This one size fits all mentality is why I detest the Feds and their useful dupes meddling in my life.


158 posted on 10/09/2009 11:05:40 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: jagusafr
Inexcusable. Zero-tolerance started out as a “good idea”, ...

It may have been presented in a way to seem like a good idea but its effect is to relieve administrators of any room for considering the individual situations, any room for common sense. There was a one-size-fits-all solution, period. That is the way with most bureaucracies.

... and the unintended consequences have been atrocious.

Liberal policies always seem to be plagued with unintended consequences. After 70+ years of consistently unintended consequences resulting from liberal policies sooner or later one must conclude the consequences were intended after all.

159 posted on 10/09/2009 11:19:19 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: ReagansRaiders

This stretches ANY reasonable sanity about a “zero tolerance” policy in schools and is plainly another absurd example of government (federal, state or local) control getting out of hand.


160 posted on 10/09/2009 11:31:58 AM PDT by meandog (GWB IS the reason for BHO!)
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