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FCC launches probe of Google Voice service( Rent seeking )
Knoxville Biz. COM ^ | October 9, 2009 | staff

Posted on 10/10/2009 3:40:11 AM PDT by Leisler

WASHINGTON — Federal regulators will look into complaints by AT&T Inc. that Google Inc.’s free messaging and calling service, Google Voice, blocks calls to rural communities where local phone companies charge high connection fees.

The Federal Communications Commission on Friday sent a letter to Google requesting information about its Voice service, which lets people sign up for one number that can route incoming calls to cell, office or home phones. The service also lets users place calls, including international calls, at low rates.

As part of a broader quarrel with Google, AT&T has complained that Google Voice blocks calls to phone numbers in some rural communities to reduce the access charges it must pay. .........

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1 posted on 10/10/2009 3:40:11 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Leisler
has complained that Google Voice blocks calls to phone numbers in some rural communities to reduce the access charges it must pay

There is a term for price discrimination. It's called free enterprise.

2 posted on 10/10/2009 3:43:18 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Leisler

This is how big business likes to compete. Mommy (Big Governemnt), he stole my lunch (by out-competing me). Do something!


3 posted on 10/10/2009 3:55:56 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: SeeSharp

Is there anything that prevents rural users from using satellite Internet? No.

People make choices. You want to live in the city, you might not be allowed to have chickens. You live up bum fuk mountain, you might not have take out Indonesian restaurant, or these days, a GM dealer with in a 150 miles.


4 posted on 10/10/2009 3:57:35 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: Leisler

I wonder how ATT has a right to demand performance of a Federal Police FOrce to protect their market share.


5 posted on 10/10/2009 4:01:44 AM PDT by mo
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To: Leisler

Has anyone used this service, and is it a good one to sign up with? I haven’t heard of it before.


6 posted on 10/10/2009 4:02:21 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: 1010RD

Actually its Mommy who tells big business they are required to provide service to remote locations if they want a business license.

Then another business comes along and seeks to bypass the laws.


7 posted on 10/10/2009 4:09:30 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BlueStateBlues

its google, they probably sell your call history and what you talk about


8 posted on 10/10/2009 4:10:14 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mo
I wonder how ATT has a right to demand performance of a Federal Police FOrce to protect their market share.

Because ATT is not allowed, by law, to block calls to any number.

This is the old technology (and FCC licenses) conflicting with new technology.

9 posted on 10/10/2009 4:11:58 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: driftdiver

Read the article. The problem is government, not competition.


10 posted on 10/10/2009 4:36:43 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Leisler

Corporatism at its finest. The government grabs erstwhile private enterprise by the jewels, and the strongest in private enterprise turn around and insert the cattle prod into government, and can now tell the government where, when, and how to squeeze.

A company cannot force anyone to do SQUAT except at the gunpoint of government. Our benevolent, paternalistic “leaders”, past and present, are to thank.

“It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our
own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.”-—C. S. Lewis


11 posted on 10/10/2009 4:42:42 AM PDT by M203M4 (Sorry - I lost them *ALL* during a camping trip last week.)
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To: 1010RD

Isn’t that what I stated????? perhaps you should read


12 posted on 10/10/2009 4:43:02 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Leisler

Government imposes a law that anybody providing phone service must provide it to all people living in an area, so they can’t skip houses that would cost more to wire up.

Is this a good thing, or a bad thing? Is this a reasonable function of government, to ensure that every citizen has access to phone service?

I also think government requires that there not be extra fees for wiring houses up that are in rural areas. Again, is this a good thing? Should government ensure CHEAP access to phone service for everybody?

Of course, nowadays there are many solutions to getting phone service; but the question I think is irrespective of the new technology. I’m not asking if government SHOULD do this, just if this is a reasonable power for government.

I’m tempted to say that yes, government has an interest in ensuring phone service for everybody. But maybe to say no about costs — which in the end would probably be the same as denying service, since if they can charge what it costs, they’d do it without the law, you’d think.

I might think no though, because people in rural areas choose to live there, and should have to foot their own bill; except a lot of people living in rural areas didn’t choose it.

Of course, this all happened long ago. And one thing I AM sure of — if there is going to be a law requiring universal service, EVERY phone provider should have to meet that requirement; it’s not fair for government to impose restrictions on some business and not others.

This is why I, like few other people here, think that if a state charges sales tax, they should also charge sales tax for internet stores, and the feds should set up a way to facilitate that. Not that I want to raise taxes, but because it’s unfair that the guy who opens a corner store has to compete for customers with a store in the next state which doesn’t have to charge sales tax.


13 posted on 10/10/2009 5:24:57 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 1010RD

Yep, no lobbyists in Washington. Transparent, Honest Government. Really going to take it to “Big Business”.
And they go after Joe Wilson. The whole nation needs to be screaming LIAR at every one of them.


14 posted on 10/10/2009 5:55:44 AM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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This is why I, like few other people here, think that if a state charges sales tax, they should also charge sales tax for internet stores, and the feds should set up a way to facilitate that.

And even if you go into your local store to buy what you need, the store should be required to charge you for shipping. That would make it more fair for internet stores...

/sarc

15 posted on 10/10/2009 5:58:38 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are always one genocide away from Utopia.)
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Is there anything that prevents rural users from using satellite Internet? No.

I used Wildblue for two years. When Alltel put up a tower within my reach, I jumped ship as soon as I could. THAT is competition.

I watch this issue closely because it will impact me eventually. Alltel was eaten by Verizon and if I don't find an alternative ISP in a year it'll mean I get capped to 5000MB a month, which is why I ran from Wildblue.

Caps could be an economy killer, much like +$4 a gallon gasoline. Look at all the applications going online, "cloud" computing, software updates, etc. that require a lot of bandwidth. THIS is the issue to watch.

16 posted on 10/10/2009 6:03:00 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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"Not that I want to raise taxes, but

Your "but" negates "Not that I want to raise taxes"

17 posted on 10/10/2009 6:06:33 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Where's The Birth Certificate)
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To: Kieri
It wasn't long ago in my area that the only Internet service you could get was dial-up that charged .10 cents an min, it was long distance!
18 posted on 10/10/2009 6:13:21 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: BlueStateBlues

I use google voice every day to make free long distance calls.
Quality is excellent. There are other free services that will create a local number for you in many large cities in the US. Anyone calling those numbers locally will get connected to your phone at home...pretty cool.

Here is an anonymous, auto expiring (or not) free service.
http://inumbr.com/


19 posted on 10/10/2009 6:14:13 AM PDT by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Onelifetogive

The store does charge you for shipping. How do you think the product got into the store?

Sure, it costs less to ship in large quantities, but then they have to pay to stock shelves, while the mail order company has a cheap warehouse.

But shipping, storage, stocking, sales force, advertising — these are all business expenses, and businesses can compete by working through these costs and making a better business model.

Taxes are something government claims from the business as a cost of doing business, and taxes should be the same for all businesses. The local company can’t find a way around their sales tax burden, and the internet company shouldn’t be subsidized.

Of course, you could also level the playing field by removing sales tax. However, I do believe there are legitimate requirements for government, that government NEEDS money to perform the jobs it is required to do, and therefore a sales tax, or an income tax, or some other tax, IS necessary for society to exist.

Conservatives are against wasteful spending, against government doing what it isn’t supposed to do, against excessive taxes. We aren’t against taxes altogether. Anarchists are against taxes altogether, because they want government gone.

But conservatives think the military is necessary, police are necessary, laws protecting private property are necessary, courts are necessary, jails are necessary.


20 posted on 10/10/2009 6:15:38 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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