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Orszag is right,,

"It's very important to get the execution right,"

..

and that is what this nation is headed toward.. execution.

by a band of liberal anti-American politicians inleague with foreign interests using our own system of politics to bring this nation down any way they can.

1 posted on 10/10/2009 10:55:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Three years is a long time to wait for dessert, and opponents could capitalize on misgivings about the complex legislation to undo what would be a signature achievement for Obama.

a signature achievement?

It’ll be his first one since taking office.. and he already has a Nobel before even achieving it.


2 posted on 10/10/2009 10:57:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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The commie ‘RATs love to whine about the mess they “inherited” from President Bush. Can you imagine the mess the next president is going to “inherit” from the commie ‘RATS? Yikes!


3 posted on 10/10/2009 10:59:13 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DUDE! Where's MY Nobel Peace Prize?)
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To: NormsRevenge
It's by design. The election of 2012 must be held with the Grand Achievement of healthcare reform right in front of people. Oh! Look what wonders the Democrats have provided for us! And it shall all be ours in just a few more months -- unless that opposition party gets in and messes everything up!

And afterwards, there will be 4 years in which private insurers go bankrupt, private firms stop offering coverage (hey, get it from the government!) and everyone gets sucked into some level of dependency.

And in 2016, it will seem nearly unthinkable that government healthcare ever be taken away.

Timing is everything, and the initial 3 year delay is very important for this thing to work as planned.

4 posted on 10/10/2009 11:00:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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Obama administration officials and Democratic lawmakers say the reason for the three-year wait is the time it's going to take to set up insurance marketplaces, write consumer protection rules and reconfigure the bureaucracy to carry out the legislation.

"It's very important to get the execution right," White House budget director Peter Orszag told The Associated Press in a recent interview.

There's another reason, less talked about: to make the costs of the plan seem more manageable under congressional budgeting rules.

Lawmakers use a 10-year accounting window to assess new programs. Starting the Medicare cuts and some of the taxes in the early years — and pushing the bulk of new spending into the latter years — helps keep the cost of the health care overhaul within Obama's $900 billion limit.

"It means that the full cost of the program is underestimated in the 10-year window that you are looking at," said Gail Wilensky. "It's not like we've never seen this before, but people need to understand what's going on."

5 posted on 10/10/2009 11:01:35 AM PDT by Joiseydude (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees. Live free or die.)
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To: NormsRevenge

....by a band of liberal anti-American politicians inleague with foreign interests using our own system of politics to bring this nation down any way they can.
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Precisely. And half of the electorate either does not care, is too stupid to realize where these America-haters are taking us, or just want whatever lifestyle the government is either GIVING them or has promised them in their plethora of lies. Even after all the warning and yelling BEFORE the election about what these criminals and tyrants were all about and what they would do to America if they were given the power to do so.

In all my years, I have never been so frustrated or fed up with the American public and a corrupt and twisted Congress.


6 posted on 10/10/2009 11:01:43 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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This sh*t needs to cease.
7 posted on 10/10/2009 11:02:08 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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The day by day continual transformation of our ‘Democracy’ based on individual liberties to ‘corporatist’,or a socialist authoritarian society like Europe.
Just before elections, the government ‘allows’ increased freedom then after the election it’s back to business as usual.
IMHO, The threat by the dems in 2012 will be about the upcoming entitlement program that those mean old Republicans will deny you even after you’ve paid into it for the past 3 years. Evil genius if you ask me.


10 posted on 10/10/2009 11:09:24 AM PDT by griswold3 (You think health care is expensive now? Just wait till it's FREE!)
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...federal tax credits...won't start flowing until 2013

So, by the rules of logic that must mean that we have until 2013 to enjoy our medical care as it is. Right?

11 posted on 10/10/2009 11:10:11 AM PDT by Slyfox
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It won’t matter. Hospitals are going to get slammed the minute this passes.


12 posted on 10/10/2009 11:10:20 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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If this legislation does pass in one form or another and there is the 3 year wait, as appears the case, then the voting public will have 2+ years of paying taxes for nothing. 2+ years puts us into the election year.

Once again, I don’t think the pols have figured this out. If the platform of the R’s in ‘12 is one of overturning the health-care legislation before it’s enactment then the election might be very, very interesting.


15 posted on 10/10/2009 11:12:59 AM PDT by happydogx2 (Affordable housing worked so well let's try healthcare next...)
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All of the utopian dreams are hope and promises. I cannot think of *one* campaign promise this guy has fulfilled. Not one. Not even talking about the or an idealized end result, just talking about having made significant progress towards the promised end. On anything. And I can think of plenty of promises made that are being aggressively reversed: Lower limits on tax increases, “torture”, Afghanistan, and rendition of detainees. Of course, having nothing measurable (except unemployment and, I will admit, the stock market, neither of which I believe the pres has any control over. Well, unless there’s guaranteed amnesty for any and everything Goldman Sachs can contrive to pump the market) means you can never be held accountable. It’s the condition of idealized government that just keeps on giving.

There were 500 or so inmates in Gitmo, the Gitmo he promised he would close. I welcome correction on that number, it’s from memory. We’ve relocated what, 8 of them? 12?

Now he’s talking about a compromise gov’t with the Taliban. Uh huh, right. This is peace.

We’re now in and looking to go deeper into a synthetic socialistic universe. I’m afraid that everything we know and cherish will be proven wrong and untenable.


19 posted on 10/10/2009 11:35:23 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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This will be the set-up for Barry to win in 2012. The plan has been designed not to solve today’s problems today, but to re-elect Barry for his second term. The scare tactic will be - you NEED to re-elect him otherwise those eeeevil Republicans will take all your healthcare away and kill you.


20 posted on 10/10/2009 12:14:55 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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WHoops??

They will gut MediCare and hike up taxes and then make us wait 3 years before we get this promised Utopia?

And how many people will die in those 3 years?


21 posted on 10/10/2009 12:30:32 PM PDT by GeronL ("On my twelfth day in office, Nobel nominated me..")
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WHoops??

They will gut MediCare and hike up taxes and then make us wait 3 years before we get this promised Utopia?

And how many people will die in those 3 years?


22 posted on 10/10/2009 12:30:36 PM PDT by GeronL ("On my twelfth day in office, Nobel nominated me..")
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“Wait for benefits is 3 years if health care passes”

The only “benefits” will be taxes, doctor shortages, curruption, long lines, frustration and death. Oblahblah-the-Pusher won’t tell you that.


23 posted on 10/10/2009 1:46:03 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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Wait for benefits is 3 years if health care passes

Correct. But the tax increases to "pay for it" take effect immediately.

24 posted on 10/10/2009 1:47:10 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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Wait for benefits is 3 years if health care passes

Of course the word "benefits" is used colloquially.

25 posted on 10/10/2009 1:48:15 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: NormsRevenge; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


27 posted on 10/11/2009 9:05:04 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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