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Navy Secretary: Women 'soon' will serve on submarines
Washington Times-Water Cooler ^ | 10/10/2009 | Kerry Picket

Posted on 10/10/2009 2:43:06 PM PDT by paltz

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus said on Thursday that women would soon serve on submarines reversing a long time ban by the Navy. The Department of Defense :

Appearing on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart,” Mabus signaled that the Navy is moving closer to allowing coed personnel on submarines.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mabus; military; militarywomen; submarine; usnavy

1 posted on 10/10/2009 2:43:06 PM PDT by paltz
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To: paltz

Secretary of the Navy on the John Stewart show? Everyday a new low. Amazing.


2 posted on 10/10/2009 2:44:34 PM PDT by hometoroost (Time to bust the nut - stamp out ACORN)
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To: paltz

This seems like a bad idea.


3 posted on 10/10/2009 2:44:36 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: paltz

The Secretary of the Navy is the Admiral of Stupid.


4 posted on 10/10/2009 2:45:04 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: paltz

The SecNav appearing on a comedy show - this am Bizarro World!


5 posted on 10/10/2009 2:45:42 PM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Refugee from the World of Doomed Olsens)
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To: paltz
Does this mean females have moved on from dominating Naval aviation .
6 posted on 10/10/2009 2:47:25 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: paltz
The subs will constantly have to be surfacing to let off pregnant sailors.

No more 6 months of underwater sailing!

7 posted on 10/10/2009 2:48:33 PM PDT by keithtoo (Question 'O' thority)
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To: paltz

been there, done that and I know this idea will not work for various reasons discussed on another thread!


8 posted on 10/10/2009 2:48:39 PM PDT by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: paltz
The only people this policy will "serve" is our enemies.

As our submarines are constantly racing to back to port to discharge little seamen.

9 posted on 10/10/2009 2:50:07 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: paltz

Women soon will serve on submarines. Serve what?


10 posted on 10/10/2009 2:51:17 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: paltz
This is an impossible dilemma that can and should be avoided."

No, it isn't. No chicks.

11 posted on 10/10/2009 2:51:44 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Truth to the Left is that which advances their goals. Factuality is irrelevant.)
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To: paltz

Give a whole new perspective to “up periscope”.


12 posted on 10/10/2009 2:52:22 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (DEFUND THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE NOW!)
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To: paltz

Women will be going down in submarines ?


13 posted on 10/10/2009 2:52:52 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: paltz

Well, whatever it takes to make the nation more ineffective and stupid, y’know.


14 posted on 10/10/2009 2:53:24 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Women on subs. Just friggin great! They have been a disaster on surface ships. It will be even worse on subs.


15 posted on 10/10/2009 2:53:36 PM PDT by Roklok
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To: al baby
Women will be going down in submarines ?

That's right. So the submarine itself will not be the only thing full of seamen.

That's two "seamen" jokes on one thread. Is that too many?

16 posted on 10/10/2009 2:54:16 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: paltz
...women would soon serve on submarines...

Good. No reason that men should have to die in metal coffins alone......any bulldike badass enough to past the Navy tests for submariners is more than welcome.

17 posted on 10/10/2009 2:54:54 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: ScreamingFist
...any bulldike badass enough to past the Navy tests for submariners is more than welcome.

You don't think they'll just lower the standards like they do for Policewomen and Firewomen?

18 posted on 10/10/2009 2:56:25 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Serve whom?


19 posted on 10/10/2009 2:58:04 PM PDT by DryProng
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To: paltz
So will will be going down on submarines.

Any volunteers?

Operation Petticoat!

20 posted on 10/10/2009 2:58:11 PM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae Cum Ita Sunt - Julius Caesar "Since these things are so!">)
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To: ScreamingFist
Good. No reason that men should have to die in metal coffins alone......


"The idea is to make the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country."

21 posted on 10/10/2009 2:59:42 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: paltz

Only as rudders or propulsion I hope.


22 posted on 10/10/2009 3:01:40 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE (Sunspots are so passe.)
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To: Texas Eagle
You don't think they'll just lower the standards like they do for Policewomen and Firewomen?

Honestly, the psych profiling keeps 90% of men or so out of subs.....those few women that can pass the criteria......I say let them in. They'll be assets to the US.

23 posted on 10/10/2009 3:02:02 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: paltz

Political correctness trumps winning wars.


24 posted on 10/10/2009 3:05:14 PM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: hometoroost

Put them in a long tube filled with seamen.

Not good.


25 posted on 10/10/2009 3:05:30 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (ImpeachZero)
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To: paltz; All

Serve? What as...crew entertainment? I don’t mean to be funny or insulting to women.

Honestly, women are trully essential to the manning of our Armed Forces and they are a valued part of the team.

However, putting women on submarines is just plain stupid. The ONLY way this would work is if they were to produce a female only crew. Women are NOT the problem....putting men and women together under intimate conditions is the problem.


26 posted on 10/10/2009 3:05:46 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: paltz

This is a good idea. [/sarc]


27 posted on 10/10/2009 3:06:06 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ScreamingFist
. They'll be assets to the US.

Until it's discovered that they are pregnant.

28 posted on 10/10/2009 3:06:58 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: paltz

Will the women be required to be on birth control? How will they be forced to use birth control? They will scream that this would be an invasion of their privacy and their rights.

If Navy will not allow asthmatics to serve, how will they have women serve? The women will say that having a uterus should not be treated as a disability.

How will they deal with an etopic pregnancy while under the ice? If the corpsman only has tylenol in his bag, how is he going to handle this medical emergency?

Let’s not pretend that there will be no sexual contact on board the submarine.

How will the berthing be equitabily divided? It won’t be. The women will be given preferential treatment. The men will suffer, regardless of rank. This will be terrible for morale.


29 posted on 10/10/2009 3:07:17 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Bobkk47

*cough*Afghanistan*Cough*


30 posted on 10/10/2009 3:09:38 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: paltz
Appearing on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart,”?

Pathetic

31 posted on 10/10/2009 3:09:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: Sola Veritas
Women are NOT the problem....putting men and women together under intimate conditions is the problem.

The few submariners I have worked with were top of the line Navy. I see no reason why women can't be combat crew...as long as the same criteria for selection is applied. BTW, I was always to busy, or sleeping to worry about getting laid......perhaps times have changed though.

32 posted on 10/10/2009 3:12:49 PM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Texas Eagle

Speaking of seaman jokes whats Obama doing this week end?


33 posted on 10/10/2009 3:12:58 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: paltz
Shades of the movie "Down Periscope" with Kelsey Grammer.

Best line from the movie is when Grammer's character asks his new XO what he thinks of their new boat (they were assigned an old diesel sub for some war games). The XO (played by Rob Schneider) says, "Sir! I think I need a tetanus shot just from looking at it!"

A younger and very cute Lauren Holly (from NCIS) plays the female assigned to the sub.

34 posted on 10/10/2009 3:13:10 PM PDT by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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To: al baby
Speaking of seaman jokes whats Obama doing this week end?

Probably practicing his acceptance speech after being named World Series MVP.

35 posted on 10/10/2009 3:16:13 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: keithtoo
The subs will constantly have to be surfacing to let off pregnant sailors. No more 6 months of underwater sailing!

Also arresting crew members for sexual harrassment.

36 posted on 10/10/2009 3:19:49 PM PDT by dancusa (Czars Czuck)
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To: paltz

I must go down to the sea again,
To the lonely sea and the sky.
And all I ask is a cute chick,
Whom I can snuggle by.


37 posted on 10/10/2009 3:37:02 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

Indeed.

A sub is where those young mens’s minds must be on their duty. Distractions and sexual tensions has no place in a nuclear armed submarine with more power then most nations.

Fools. Such fools.


38 posted on 10/10/2009 3:39:52 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Texas Eagle
I heard Ed McMahon Visited him last night and said he won the grand prize from Publishers clearing house sweepstakes

PS I know hes dead

39 posted on 10/10/2009 3:47:44 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Maybe they’ll only choose the don’t-ask-don’t-tell Lesbians :)


40 posted on 10/10/2009 3:48:58 PM PDT by NewCenturions
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To: keithtoo
The subs will constantly have to be surfacing to let off pregnant sailors

The result will be more sailors on subs with their tubes tied...

41 posted on 10/10/2009 4:00:37 PM PDT by mikrofon (Making 'torpedo launches' less effective...)
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To: DryProng
Serve whom?

When I first saw your reply in your inbox, I thought that maybe you were correcting a post of mine that said "Serve who?". I had said "Serve what?" These can be combined as "Serve what to who(m)?"

42 posted on 10/10/2009 4:23:10 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Sola Veritas

SNL did a skit on that.

All the womens monthly cycles synced up and they started WW III.

Horribly hormonally terrifyingly true.


43 posted on 10/10/2009 4:24:42 PM PDT by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: paltz

This has to be a joke.

If not, my grandson will quit the submarine service and ask for a different assignment!

The last place on earth where a woman belongs is on a nuclear submarine out to sea for 139 straight days.


44 posted on 10/10/2009 4:25:57 PM PDT by Palladin (ACORN is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Texas Eagle

... and then the Navy won’t be able to take action because to punish the woman would be inequitable treatment.


45 posted on 10/10/2009 4:31:02 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Names Ash Housewares

agreed.


46 posted on 10/10/2009 4:39:09 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Texas Eagle

I wonder how many stripes our Condom-In-Chief wears on his dress?


47 posted on 10/10/2009 4:57:33 PM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae Cum Ita Sunt - Julius Caesar "Since these things are so!">)
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To: paltz

I think that the hysterical Chicken Little’s who scream that this is a bad idea need to take a chill pill.

As an officer in the Australian Navy, I served with women and found that there was no real problems having them. They are as professional and dedicated as their male counterparts. In fact, they tended to be (on average) a little better.

We’ve had women on submarines for years with no drama, so I can’t imagine that American women are inferior to Australian women in their ability to serve their country.


48 posted on 10/10/2009 6:22:38 PM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: ScreamingFist; All

“The few submariners I have worked with were top of the line Navy.” That is true...while underway. On shore they are hell raisers. I’ve worked with some as well.

Submarine duty is unique and requires extreme focus. If one member of the crew screws up, the entire crew could be lost. They don’t need distractions. Putting women on subs would be a terrible distraction. Even if they were the most professional, and chaste, in the entire U.S. Navy. They would still be a distraction. Also, think about the wives waiting back at home. Something more for them to worry about?

It is just a bad idea done for “social engineering.” Women are an essential and valued part of the U.S. military. However, there are just some nitches their presence would hurt not enhance....this is NO reflection upon the professionalism of female members of our military.


49 posted on 10/11/2009 1:48:37 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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