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Aw, nuanced. Nuanced. /sarc.
1 posted on 10/12/2009 8:05:15 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Indoctrination.


2 posted on 10/12/2009 8:06:35 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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Killjoys have attempted to ruin everything. Christmas, Thanksgiving, Columbus Day, you name it. Notice, however, in no jurisdiction is the NEA lobbying to make October 12 a school day.


3 posted on 10/12/2009 8:07:43 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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The Crimes of Christopher Columbus
4 posted on 10/12/2009 8:08:04 AM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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By this logic, how could anyone “discover” a lost tribe or unknown civilization?

Columbus had courage, something that liberals do not like and do not understand.


5 posted on 10/12/2009 8:08:05 AM PDT by Kansas58
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Yea, and the “indigenous people” gave them syphilis, which took 500 years to find a cure.
6 posted on 10/12/2009 8:08:30 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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“I talk about the situation where he didn’t even realize where he was,’’
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Ah, did he tell the kids that when that happen Columbus PRAYED and asked God what to do ???


7 posted on 10/12/2009 8:08:57 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Exhibit A as to why our children are completely unaware of what an American is. The NEA and the rest of these pukes will trash America at any chance. Not one of them would have the guts to get in any one of Columbus’s tiny ships and brave the Atlantic like he did. And if the NEA and these other morons think that maintaining discipline on three ships with dozens of people is easy, then they really are morons.

Get your kids out of the public screwells as fast as you can.


8 posted on 10/12/2009 8:09:04 AM PDT by laweeks
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How would today’s kindergarten teachers know Christopher Columbus was “mean”????

How?


10 posted on 10/12/2009 8:11:02 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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I hope I can get my grandson to read Samuel Eliot Morrison's Admiral of the Ocean Sea: A Life of Christopher Columbus
11 posted on 10/12/2009 8:11:03 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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In Texas, students start learning in the fifth grade about the “Columbian Exchange,’’ which consisted not only of gold, crops, and goods shipped back and forth across the Atlantic Ocean, but also of diseases carried by settlers that decimated native populations.

It's somehow never pointed out that if the Western Hemisphere had been more technologically advanced and "discovered" Europe or Asia, exactly the same thing would have happened. Eurasian diseases probably reduced the native population of the American by 90% or more by 1600, but there was absolutely no way to prevent this once contact was made.

Also, FWIW, all these diseases of which I'm aware originated in Asia or Africa, yet are routinely referred to as European diseases.

I have no objection to history being taught "warts and all," in fact that's preferrable. I do object to it being taught "warts only."

12 posted on 10/12/2009 8:12:10 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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So, the Europeans DELIBERATELY brought disease over with themselves?

How on earth would 15th century sailors know they carried diseases with them? Hell, they thought they were going to India!

This is all so much bull durham.


16 posted on 10/12/2009 8:14:10 AM PDT by RexBeach
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“The indigenous population was kind of waiting expectantly, almost with smiles on their faces,’’ Kracht said. “ ‘I wonder what this guy is bringing us?’ Well, he’s bringing us smallpox, for one thing, and none of us are going to live very long.’’

They are probably being taught that Columbus gave the natives death blankets and hacked them to death with a sabre.

sigh...


17 posted on 10/12/2009 8:15:26 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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"..a more nuanced picture.."

IOW make him look like a villian.

18 posted on 10/12/2009 8:16:35 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Kindergarten?? That teacher needs horse whipped.
19 posted on 10/12/2009 8:17:00 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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Because how could he discover America if there were already people living here?’’

That's the problem with these people, they don't understand the American concept or appreciate the opportunities of what a truly free country offers.

We're not special, in fact we're the problem in the world, I am so sick of this.

21 posted on 10/12/2009 8:19:37 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Obama's Blackberry, who's on the other end?)
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“He was very mean, very bossy”

There can be only ONE captain of a ship.

This kid will be a very poor employee. He thinks no one should be the boss.


22 posted on 10/12/2009 8:19:51 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Who cares about the Indians? Not me. They were a group of barbarians, in some cases cannibals, who constantly fought against competing tribes well before the Europeans showed up. Lefty weasels and fruits attempt to portray these barbarians as ‘peace-loving, spiritual people’ when in actuality they killed and mutilated each other while battling for the same turf they ultimately lost to the Europeans. They have contributed very little to the world, in any way, and it’s an overall positive that this great land was settled by people with more ability and virtue.


23 posted on 10/12/2009 8:20:25 AM PDT by raptor29
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You’ll never see these libs mess with “Arbor Day”! :)


24 posted on 10/12/2009 8:20:27 AM PDT by albie
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It occurs to me (not for the first time) that the large Hispanic immigration which is now happening is almost payback for Columbus. The folks crossing our southern border do not look like fairskinned Spaniards. The folks in Mexico and Central America today have genetically very mixed, and in large part Native American. They are coming up north, and they are very receptive to the idea that Columbus was an evil man.

Let's go back many, many centuries. A lot of folks think that the Barbarian Invasions which toppled Rome were a series of military campaigns. Not so. Yes, there were battles, but mostly it was a mass migration of peoples with a different culture. The Mediterranean culture of Caesar, Cicero, and Vergil was overwhelmed by an outside culture that had different values.

This is what we see happening to us today.

26 posted on 10/12/2009 8:21:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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One moment in the movie 1492 that I liked...

Columbus confronts his persecutor and says, what you can never change is the fact that I did it. And you didn’t.


27 posted on 10/12/2009 8:22:55 AM PDT by marron
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